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Are These Macrinus & Diadumenian Coins Authentic?

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I was at a coin show last weekend going through a sellers bargain bin and came across these two coins. I still don't know enough about ancients to determine if these are real or not but considering the age they seem to have and other stuff I was finding in the bin, I figured it would be worth a shot at the price they were. I don't even know if they are Macrinus and Diadumenian, that just looked the closest to these two. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Looking forward to hearing all you experts feedback!
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 Posted 10/30/2021  11:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Biancasdad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Imo, two genuine provincial coins.

Nice little bargain bin pick up.
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Biancasdad,
Congrats on 1000 post milestone. Did I miss your contest?
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Maybe it's just a photographic artifact, but the porosity seems extreme. I'm also curious as to why there are those prominent central circular cavities/indentations.

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@john Thx!

@Lucky Cuss. I believe those are centration dimples used during flan preparation and are common to provincial coinage
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I believe those are centration dimples used during flan preparation and are common to provincial coinage.


Yes you have a job buying Ptolemaic bronzes without a central indentation. I don't think anyone knows how they got there, but probably while using a lathe to trim the flan.
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The porous surfaces was what was making me question the authenticity too. The middle indent I noticed on alot of other genuine examples.
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@biancasdad Can you remind me again what provincial means when talking about ancients.
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The link provides a nice overview as my answer is quite simplistic.

As the Roman empire expanded there became a need to produce coins for conquered provinces (i.e. Provincial coinage). Generally speaking, the coins would show the Roman emperor on the obverse while the reverse would feature Greek legends identifying the city while showcasing iconography that might appease the local population.

https://rpc.ashmus.ox.ac.uk/introduction/whatisrpc
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