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Okay, best for last. I picked up this monstrosity over the weekend and need help. It's in a SEGS holder of all things, which calls it a REV 25C CAP with the following: reverse of 25C cap struck on cent planchet. So, what is actually going on here? Is this really a die cap? It does appear to be struck on a cent (or foreign planchet) as it is a type II reverse and would be from 1956-1964 so no cladding issues. It does have a D mint mark. Because I paid a lot for this, I am keeping it in the holder until I can be sure, more or less, that it is as amazing as it seems. I can return it if it is diagnosed as something not really worth what I paid for it, as long as it's still in the holder. So once I have a reasonable explanation of what it is, I will crack it out and weight it. However, if you happen to know what a SEGS holder weighs, the total weight of the coin and holder is 42.34g. Looking for a lot of help here! It's a good one, just need to know how it got to looking like it does. Thanks in advance. No Date Denver Washington quarter mint error - capped die struck on cent planchet?       |
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What an amazing error! Unfortunately I can't help you with the terminology, but it's amazing for sure!
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I would question whether it's actually a die cap rather than just a brockage. It's hard to tell but I don't see any extreme cupping.
EDIT: I think I'm misunderstanding the SEGS label, I'm guessing it's calling it a die cap strike through rather than a die cap?
In any case it's a very curious error, I'd love to see Mike Diamond's opinion on it.
Edited by Adam_E
11/07/2021 10:37 pm
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The reverse is strongly concave, with one section of quite high cupping by the eagles right wing tip. So the obverse (the messy side) is strongly convex and the edges curve down and away.
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type II reverse and would be from 1956-1964 so no cladding issues. It does have a D mint mark. I didn't think they had the type II reverse in Denver... but that sure looks like type II and that sure looks like a Denver mintmark. ? Edited by Tanman2001
11/07/2021 11:36 pm
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I have no idea. I showed the coin to a CCF member who called it a type II. I couldn't tell them apart without some serious studying.
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Maybe just a type I that's distorted from the unusual strike. But yeah the lack of a serif on the second S in STATES and the leaf connected to the A in DOLLAR usually means type ii.
type ii was the proof design, so it should have only been on Philly coins.
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Interesting. No Type B reverse has a D mint mark, so that's extremely odd. Any chance that what we are seeing as a mint mark is just a hit? It sure does look like a proof reverse for the 1956-1964 Washingtons, so it shouldn't have a mint mark at all. I can't think of how it would come out copper during a time period of silver coinage but still be about the same size of a regular quarter (despite the stretching). Were there any world copper coins that were being minted during that time period that were roughly the size of a quarter? That's the only way I can think of this being explained, but my entire theory rests on the mint mark being just a hit.
So possibly a Washington Type B reverse die struck on a foreign planchet with a die cap? That would be one heck of an error/variety combo if I've ever seen one. I'll follow this and see what the pros have to say about it. A real conversation piece you've come across here!
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Collector of U.S. Coins, Varieties, and Colonial Coinage
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Looks like a D to me, but here's an image to help make the call.  |
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Goodness me that's one heck of a coin!
As everyone is saying, Mike Diamond will hopefully give you a good idea of what exactly this coin is.
But whatever it is, it's one spectacular combo!
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That is indeed a spectacular error if genuine. I would enjoy hearing from Mike Diamond what it is and how such a coin was created.
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Fascinating! That certainly looks like a D mintmark.
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This is one I'll have to keep an eye on to see what Mr. Diamond has to say.
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Wow, this one's beyond my knowledge. Very cool coin.
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