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New Member
Australia
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G'day guys! Very new member and my first post! I was searching through some of my old things and I found 4 old hammered coins. I've been looking online for the past few days at different images and forums and I haven't yet found any information. There's a particular symbol I've noticed on a few of the coins that I can't seem to find on google. It's the circle with the 3/4 'prongs' on it. Terrible description but you might get the idea from the photos. I was just interested as to the origin of these coins and possibly a rough time period that they were produced :D I hope the images work properly, I don't know if it helps much but I'll put some details about each coin beneath the images. Thanks in advance for any help!!! Coin 1:   11.14 Grams Approx 24mm diameter Not magnetic Coin 2:   5.44 Grams Approx 19mm diameter A little bit magnetic Coin 3 (I have two of these but I think only showing 1 coin should be enough)   11.37 Grams Approx 25mm diameter A little bit magnetic Thanks very much in advance!! -Cam  |
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Moderator
 United States
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Valued Member
Netherlands
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Coin # 3 : Copper Tetradrachm , Kanishka I , ca. 127-152 AD Kushan Dynasty , India reference : Göbl 801 Regards , Pinpoint  |
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Valued Member
Netherlands
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Coin # 2 :Copper Tetradrachm , Soter Megas ( alias Vima Takto) , ca.80-100 AD , Kushan Dynasty , India reference : Mitch 2938 var. Regards , Pinpoint  |
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Valued Member
Netherlands
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Coin # 1 : Copper Teteadrachm , Huvishka ( 151-190 AD ) Kushan Dynasty , India reference : MK 836 var. Regards , Pinpoint PS , I can't give the confirmation if all the 3 are original coins or replica's !  Edited by pinpoint
11/11/2021 06:47 am
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Australia
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Your "circle with the 3/4 'prongs' on it" symbol is called a "tamgha". It is a traditional central Asian clan-mark, originally used by nomadic peoples as a brand-mark on cattle and property. The Turks and Mongols took the concept of the tamgha with them wherever they went, and used them in the empires they founded; the practice can be seen from Western China all the way to Eastern Europe, with examples like the Ukrainian trident. The Kushan coins in this thread are the earliest tamghas you can find on coinage.
Given the odd non-copper colouration, I suspect the second and third are replicas.
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New Member
 Australia
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Wow!! Thank you all for the welcomes and the responses!! Quote:
Coin # 1 : Copper Teteadrachm , Huvishka ( 151-190 AD )
Kushan Dynasty , India
reference : MK 836 var.
Regards , Pinpoint Thank you so very much @Pinpoint for identifiying all three! I was thrown out by the text on the coins so I was mainly searching for Greek/Roman etc..  I appreciate the effort you went to, thanks again!! Quote:
symbol is called a "tamgha" Also @Sap thank you for the awesome facts about the symbol! That was way better than any description I was hoping for and really informative! I genuinely have no idea when it comes to coin collecting, but when it comes to replicas are they also a bit varied or are they generally all made the exact same? I'm only asking as I've got a second of the #3 coin whill I'll post a couple of photos of below. I'm not trying to prove they're real or anything, I'm totally fine if they're replicas because it's sparked a cool coin curiosty and I've enjoyed researching around!! For reference, the coin in the original post is on the left in the first image, and is on the top in the second two (if I uploaded it correctly hahaha) The coin in the original post is 11.372 Grams and the one in these new photos is 11.524 Grams. If these coins were only made with copper then it wouldn't surprise me if they're fakes hahahaha!!    Thanks heaps! Cheers! Cam  |
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Pillar of the Community
Russian Federation
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The pictures of the two coins together definitely prove they're modern replicas without any further evidence required; real ancient coins never have (nearly) identical edge dimples like that.
AFAIK the seam line along the edge is characteristic of casting.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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First thing to consider - except for the rare and very early Heraios issues, the Kushans didn't issue silver, just copper and gold. If you see any kushan silver coin on the market, it's fake.
The Soter Megas type should be copper; it's tough to tell if it's just been scrubbed and polished down to bright copper, gold plated, or some sort of brass casting.
The Huvishka at least IMO is genuine.
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United States
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to the community As pointed out they are all Kushan, very harshly cleaned. |
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Posted 11/10/2021 1:40 pm
