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Bedrock of the Community
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The examples Wheezy posted are of cameo frosted examples and are nicer than usual coins (from what I can see). Those you could probably possibly tell even lightly circulated, but could they be told from an exceptional business strike? And can an average SMS coin be told from a better than average business strike? I don't think so. Can an average SMS be told from a typical business strike? Sure! But since I don't think you can consistantly tell an average SMS from an exceptional business strike, that is like asking "Can you tell an average businss strike from an exceptional business strike?"
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Conder101, this is a very good, concise point, I would then rephrase my original question, do you or anyone else here on this site think you can tell the difference between an average SMS coin and an average business strike coin once they were circulated? By average I mean nothing special, buy a mint set and a SMS and remove a coin from each and once they were circulated do you think that you could tell them apart, I will say that IMHO, there is no contest, the SMS coins finish would out last the business strike, in so much that you would be able to tell them apart for a long time......  Edited by Morgans Dad
01/25/2009 12:37 am
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Conder101, you write above "The examples Wheezy posted are of cameo frosted examples and are nicer than usual coins (from what I can see). Those you could probably possibly tell even lightly circulated" Your statement clearly implies that "the cameo frosted examples you could probably possibly tell" to me means that the better coins"frosted cameos" you might possibly be able to tell apart, you have seemingly already answered my new question and I can not believe, IMO, an experienced coin collector would have any problem telling the two apart. I know you layed out the example that the TPG'S could not tell in some instances however, we all know that anyone could send a coin in to a company and receive it back with a grade and break that exact coin out of the slab and send the same coin back to the same company and receive a totally different grade from the first, that said I am looking for an honest, open minded opinion from you and from anyone who would care to contribute to this topic ... |
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In 1965, to control a shortage of coins for circulation, the Treasury decided to discontinue the production of both Proof and Mint sets. To not completely disregard collectors, the Bureau of the Mint issued what it called Special Mint sets, which contained coins that were actually refinished Uncirculated pieces. The "special" finish added to these coins was much brighter than that placed on coins for circulation, but lacked the brilliant luster of genuine Proof coins. In 1966 and 1967, the Special Mint set was again the only set offered to collectors. Packaging for this set was different, as the coins came in a clear plastic holder and were held in place by raised rings of plastic.
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Thank you everyone for responding to my original post. I ordered a few JFKs off e-bay, and I can tell you that there is a difference immediately between the uncirculated, the SMS and the proof.
I am looking at:
(1) a proof 1968 - very shiny and mirrorlike;
(2) an unc. 1968 D in the bag - clean, but a bit dull; and
(3) a 1967 SMS - shiny, not quite mirrorlike as a proof, but closer to the finish of a proof than an uncirculated coin.
The SMS coins I just got are definitely nicer in their finish than an uncirculated. Easy to tell the difference - at least the specimens I got. Thanks again for the education.
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Novillero, I did not mean to hijack your original post and hope you see why I did this, because under the understanding of a better education for all who are interested, IMHO, I believe this is directly related to your topic. I see you have seen the difference and am glad you could feed into the on going thirst for knowledge and a clearer understanding, be well, Mike PS: To whom it may concern, please feel free to give your opinions.... |
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Bedrock of the Community
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I would then rephrase my original question, do you or anyone else here on this site think you can tell the difference between an average SMS coin and an average business strike coin once they were circulated? Well if you could actually prove that the circulated "average SMS" started life as an SMS coin then yes you can tell the difference. The problem is you can't prove that circulated "average SMS" didn't start life as an exceptional business strike. So you are back to the effective equivalent question "Can you tell the difference between a lightly circulated exceptional business strike and a lightly circulated average business strike?" |
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