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United States
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Can anyone chime in on my coin? I added a picture from the Red Book. NE sixpence?    *** Edited by Staff to Add Year / Mintmark / Denomination to Title. Titles are Important! ***Edited by jdbarrick
11/21/2021 8:46 pm
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@jdb, as there are only a few of these known, what sort of provenance do you have for this piece? Also, have you compared the style of these letters to letters on real examples?
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Makes for an interesting read - (scroll down to 'FELT PLATE IMAGES USED TO MAKE WYATT COPIES') https://www.coinbooks.org/club_nbs_..._v18n23.html"... in the 1850s, coin collecting in the United States grew greatly in popularity. Rarities could only be owned by a few collectors. So it was not surprising that several enterprising individuals decided to create their own imitations of rarities for sale to collectors."  |
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United States
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It is worn, and looks like it wasn't made yesterday. The font of the NE, with the N disconnecting from itself and the E very blocky raises a red flag.
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It's obviously fake. There are only 7 known. Some of the early copies have a little value, but I don't think this is one of those either. Here is an excellent article covering all (at the time) known NE shillings, sixpence, and threepence. Download it for easier viewing. The sixpence begin on "sequential page 3578". Compare the images to yours. The NE punch was also used on the threepence. https://nnp.wustl.edu/library/book/514007 |
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Thank you all for your thoughts. I purchased this coin years ago. I wish I knew more about its backstory. Worth sending in to PCGS just to be certain?
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Canada
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Edited by JimmyD
11/22/2021 08:21 am
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I would do your own research before spending money on a TPG. Heritage archives has two genuine examples and two early fakes, one attributed by NGC as a Wyatt copy (circa 1850). Stack's Bowers archive has several Wyatt copies and two sales of one from the Ford collection later deemed an early counterfeit. Like I said above, yours to me is clearly not genuine - nothing about the NE matches known examples. It's not a Wyatt copy, so you'd be looking for attribution as someone else's old fake I guess. It doesn't look that old to me. Genuine examples weight 2.03-2.36 grams. An interesting aside - the Lauder specimen, #5 in the link I posted above, is listed as "stolen from the Massachusetts Historical Society" and then down in Appendix C, Timeline of Sales, it says "1960s Massachusetts Historical Society example stolen." MHS has the only known threepence (the jury is still out on the @larsjan coin). I contacted the MHS curator a while back about the stolen sixpence, and she said that their sixpence was returned to them in 2017 or 2018. So after 50+ years they got their example back. |
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United States
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I think I would just put it in a box or 2x2 flip and forget it.
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United States
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Put it on ebay, set a $10,000 reserve, and see what kind of bids it attracts. Let the market decide how real it is. No returns of course. "Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
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11/22/2021 4:52 pm
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United States
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Just Carl - that's a bit rude when I'm simply reaching out to learn more about this piece.
Thanks to all who gave thoughtful responses/ resources to check out
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