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What do you think? (Feel free to insult my photography skills, which objectively suck.)   Edited by pristine2
11/23/2021 11:48 am
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I'd say VF-30 if that stuff on the reverse is just dirt and not corrosion.
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Bedrock of the Community
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I think it is about VF35 but there are some problem areas. There is a scratch in the face by the mouth, there is a large planchet disturbance in the right obverse field - maybe some tooling to remove graffiti above your added lettering. The left obverse field also has a large squarish disturbance that continues into the face of LIBERTY. More planchet defects in the reverse at TES of STATES and BUS of PLURIBUS. Further planchet defects around the 50 in the reverse denomination. Unless this is a rare variety which I didn't check, this is an easily found coin and I would choose a coin without these problems.
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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I don't see the "squarish disturbance" in the left obverse field .. could you re-describe?
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Bedrock of the Community
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Agree VF-30 or possibly 35.
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Sure, do you see the parallel horizontal lines in the rectangle at left?  IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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Btw, I think these photos you take show the coin beautifully and in great detail.  IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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do you see the parallel horizontal lines in the rectangle at left? looks like a finger or palm print |
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to me it looks like metal has moved
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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Thanks guys -- I appreciate the scrutiny.
I've had this coin since I was a kid -- it was in a big jar of 19th century coins my grandfather kept. I've been gradually submitting them to NGC -- which unfortunately charges extra (and a lot) for digital pics.
I replaced the pics with slightly better ones. That scratch on the cheek is on the holder -- different light placement removes it from view. I see the parallel lines in the left field -- I thought they were prints.
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Later die state obverse than reverse. The die state and soft strike make the obverse look weaker than it is. The issues on the obverse appear to me to be die clashing marks with the eagle's wings. VF-30 obverse, VF-35 reverse, net VF-30, straight grade.
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Overall nice eye appeal. I'm in the VF30/35 bubble, leaning VF30, assuming the marks in the fields next to Stars 11-13 is not PMD. |
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I find this an attractive VF-35. This is an O-108 with a rarity of R-3. Not sure what is in the right obverse field, looks like scratches.
Any other neat coins found in your grandfather's jar?
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My grandfather gave me some wonderful coins, but poverty in early adulthood compelled me to sell the best ones. There was a beautiful 1800 dollar that fetched $7500 back in 1979. I still miss that coin. A number of nice small gold pieces as well. I managed to keep a few nice pieces. He loved bust quarters and halves, and I still have a few --- not all of them impaired like this one.
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11/23/2021 8:52 pm
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I am sure that your grandfather would have been happy to know that some of the things that he left behind helped get you through challenging times. That is the one of the best things that one can do for loved ones.
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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Yep, NGC thinks that's PMD in the right obv field, not die clashes or anything.  |
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