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Ebay Lot, Bad Fake Trade Dollar? Or What

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 Posted 11/23/2021  8:33 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add cpfull to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
https://www.ebay.com/itm/353781085078

Just browsing the bay and saw this, have not looked closely at the others, but the " Trade dollar" immediately caught my eye as off.
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 Posted 11/23/2021  8:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
They're all fake
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 Posted 11/23/2021  8:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Clearly the Trade dollar is a fake.
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 Posted 11/23/2021  9:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with Grape—- they are all counterfeits!
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 Posted 11/23/2021  9:49 pm  Show Profile   Check captainrich's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add captainrich to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The seller has one negative feedback and it's from a buyer who is complaining that his $200 fake bust half appears to be cleaned.
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Yep, they are all fake!
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 Posted 11/23/2021  10:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Reported — (for what that's worth!)
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 Posted 11/25/2021  12:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The other coins he has sold in the past 6 months are fakes as well.
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 Posted 11/25/2021  1:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Reported again. ebay's bots don't care and live people are few and far between to look at it.
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 Posted 11/25/2021  4:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add commems to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
FWIW...

The "Trade Dollar" included in the lot is a copy of an 1873 pattern for the Trade Dollar - it is not meant to be a copy of the issued coin. The reference number for the pattern is J1315/P148 (the numbers correspond to either the Judd or Pollock pattern coin reference volumes).

Though it's clearly a fake, the design is reasonably faithful to the original.



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This seller has quite the collection of red flags:
a no-return policy
no meaningful feedback
significant percentage of negative feedback
multiple coins that would be unlikely to be grouped for lot sales

And on and on. Yet people are bidding on this stuff.

This won't stop until auction sellers like ebay are held liable for selling counterfeits.
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 Posted 11/27/2021  7:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Guys like this put this stuff up on ebay on long holiday weekends 'cause they know nobody in authority is watching and the bots could care less. By the time someone with authority sees it it's long closed and the Seller is already laughing all the way to the bank.
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 Posted 11/28/2021  3:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TimNH to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
And .. SOLD, for $504, with 41 bidders. Just sad. This is seriously hurting the hobby, and it seems unstoppable.

Speaking of red flags, how about this description:


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These are coins from my belated father's collection. I'm not too educated on old coins and do not know any grades or if they have been cleaned. I've only sold coins from my fathers collection I'm not a coin dealer. These are the last of his collection. I've sold several coins here from this collection so far. I don't know the value of these coins.


Yeah right.
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I'll take care of it.
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FYI, if posted in the correct forum, I likely would've taken care of it the day it was posted.
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