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When Are Doubled Die Coins Not Struck Doubled Die?

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 Posted 12/10/2021  1:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spencerj72 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I like where your going with that Dearborn. Big Kingdom man that was a mouth full but appreciated, just to clarify we are talking about a coin mirroring another exactly. Saying that let's run with what you were saying assuming it was a DDO that lets say stutter step now no one is arguing if it has Mechanical Doubling but the question I would have would that stutter step be enough to say devalue a true 1958 P Lincoln, honestly I can't say it would. The question then becomes where does it no longer have value as a DDO, so back to Dearborn. I think a DDO is just that, let me put it this way I have 3 coins in front of me the first is a true 1958 P showing all devices as a true DDO, beside it are 2 1958 P that are identical in every way but one and that is the devices are at different heights with the lesser being only a half the other my question is when does it fail to meet the standards of a DDO in this senecio?
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 Posted 12/10/2021  1:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spencerj72 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I only ask because this is the predicament I find myself facing. Lol
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 Posted 12/10/2021  1:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bumpkin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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there's 8 classes of doubled dies, 9 if you include hybrid doubled dies which involve two classes of doubled dies on the same die.


BK- You took the words right out of my mouth prior to me reading this entire thread, and seeing your comment, about doubled dies. I was going to mention the same thing you did but you explained and worded it much better than I could have. Thanks!
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 Posted 12/10/2021  1:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bumpkin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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the question I would have would that stutter step be enough to say devalue a true 1958 P Lincoln

In response to your question, MS coins are graded "as struck" as long as there is not a major loss of eye appeal to the coin due to, say, light MD. Even MS70 coins are graded "as struck" with the same criteria. Depending on the denomination, year, mint, etc.... some coins were struck better than others but can still achieve an MS grade as long as they are UN-circulated. There are numerous criteria involved in the grading process. However, always keep in mind that TPG's are human and being so, makes grading a subjective art.
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 Posted 12/10/2021  1:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stevieb to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What I've noticed is a true doubled die the altitude of both strikes is the same. On MD strikes the altitude is not the same. Check it out.
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 Posted 12/10/2021  1:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spencerj72 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ok I can get on board with that especially the TPG being human as I have learned. I brought these questions out in order to make an informed decision on sending in a couple coins showing this same issue. As I understood it the error or variety needed to be seen using a 10x magnification but then remembered having a Kennedy half minted with a die that was quintupled, a variety I would have never seen without more than 10x and after thinking about it I Came to the same conclusion on a few DDO I'm aware of existing
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