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 if you have a plastic hook toothpick it would be able to check if metal has been pushed inwards into the void or if it is smooth. Even then I imagine circulation wear could easily flatten any edge that could have been created if it was a pre strike error. I would enjoy hearing a conclusive answer on this one from Mike. Edited by Wrekkdd
12/12/2021 5:50 pm
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Unfortunately my scale only weighs to the .1
The void area actually goes underneath the back of Lincolns head/hair abit. Like whatever it was possibly struck through was pushed under Lincolns head/hair abit.
A question I have is if the void area was on the planchet before it was struck wouldn't it affect the strike in above mentioned area?
The two obverse edges of the area are not overlapping and do not appear to have been pushed into the area void but like said it could have been worn in circulation.
Same situation with the missing rim and collar area edges.
I would like to know which category this coin falls into.
I would appreciate if Mike would have a look and weigh in when he is available or has a moment to.
Thank you for all the feedback and knowledge on both possible issues with this coin.
Coindom76
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I'm going to go back to my original theory that this was damaged before the strike. Quote:
I wonder if that was 'dented in' before the strike. You can see the weak strike on the reverse in the same area. I think that because the material was missing there was not enough pressure to properly form the reverse device.
If it was a massive strike through - the material/grease/whatever that would have been there would allow for the reverse to form properly, but it did not. So, I don't think it was a strike through, but instead a void that was already there then struck. Now, I did change my wrote a little but the thought is the same. So! What if, the planchet was made properly and maybe even upset properly but got damaged before it reached the striking chamber. THAT would explain the coins proper weight AND the weakness of the reverse behind this dent. It would also explain why there is no 'wave' to be seen because it was flattened out by the die in an attempt to make a proper ly struck coin. Some of you mentioned that it looks like that the metal appeared to be going back into the dent, which also reinforces my theory that when the damage occurred (before the strike) metal was pushed out then back again during the strike. All of the metal that got moved out could have been used up in other parts of the devices that got formed well. So now I need to go back and look at this coin again and see if any of the devices near the damage was struck a little bit stronger |
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United States
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This appears to be a planchet defect, possibly a rolling indentation. The deficit on the obverse led to the weakly struck area on the reverse.
Error coin writer and researcher.
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United States
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Forgot to leave a response to this one! It looks like a big strike through to me but Mike also noted it appears to be a planchet defect. Nice one!
-CH27
Collector of U.S. Coins, Varieties, and Colonial Coinage
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There we have it,thanks Mike. John1  |
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United States
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@MikeD Thank you for weighing in.
Without the coin in hand I understand it will be almost impossible to know for sure due to the weight still being 3.1.
Either way it is a cool error and nice find.
Especially when my daughter gave it to me out of her pocket change.
Thank you to all who weighed in on this coin.
Coindom76
Edited by Coindom76
12/19/2021 07:15 am
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United States
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As I stated above, planchet damaged before strike, and overweight.
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yup! and as I had also stated way back on page 1 even before the weight was provided, I had said this, and even reiterated it on page 3. Not to 'blow one's own horn' But ..  |
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United States
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@Dearborn yes sir you did.
Thank you for your feedback and information on this coin and type of error.
I appreciate everyone for weighing in with their feedback.
Coindom76
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United States
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 Rounding the corner, 54900. Edited by coop
12/21/2021 4:21 pm
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