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1971-D LMC Pre Strike Planchet Error Or Debris Obstructed Strike?

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This 1971D LMC has me scratching my head. The lamination is undamaged on the obverse missing area from the rim at God to Lincolns hair. You can see how it effects the reverse area of the coin and the rim. Should this lead me to believe this was cause during the striking process or was it a prestrike stock issue? If it is a pre strike stock
issue my question is why the strike on reverse area was also effected?
There also appears to be doubling throughout the obverse and reverse of this LMC but that is not really my concern at this moment.
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 Posted 12/11/2021  08:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wrekkdd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It looks more like a struck through to me. You can see weakness on the obverse on ONE, it's hard to tell from the photos for me as I suppose it could be damage as well. Will wait to see what others think.
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I'm leaning toward this being a really nice strike-through. Any chance of you posting a nice close-up of the affected area on the obv? Thx.
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Looks like a struck through debris on obverse and grease on reverse to me.
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@Wrekkdd Absolutely, I will take and post close up pics of the affected area today.
@vestigeWolf At first glance I thought the reverse was a Greaser too but the rim is affected on reverse and there are other indicators that led me away from that conclusion.
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The weakness on ONE and the rim would be caused by the struck through on the obverse. I don't think I have seen a struck through that also effected the rim like this.
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@Spence absolutely, I will take pics of the affected areas and post them today
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I wonder if that was 'dented in' of missing material before the strike. You can see the weak strike on the reverse in the same area. I think that because the material was missing there was not enough pressure to properly form the reverse device.
If it was a massive strike through - the material/grease/whatever that would have been there would allow for the reverse to form properly, but it did not. So, I don't think it was a strike through, but instead a void that was already there then struck.
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At this point, I'm warming up to strike through.
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How much does it weigh? That would explain Dearborns theory.
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@Wrekkdd the weight on this LMC is 3.1 grams
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Sorry @Wrekkdd
@VestigeWolf the weight is 3.1 grams.
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The weight does not seem to be effected enough for it to be missing metal from the planchette so I think it's a really neat struck through. Very cool.
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coindom76,
can you take a closer shot of the area in question? can you rotate your coin clockwise so the GOD area would be where the date is using the same amount of light?
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If the coin is bent, it would be damage to the coin. So lets see that edge of the coin of the out curvature?
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