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Help With Identifying An Error On 1972 Lincoln Memorial Penny

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 Posted 12/13/2021  7:46 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Azziz to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello all I am new to this forum and I thank you kindly for allowing me to be here.

I am in need of some expertise to identify if this penny has an error or not. It is a 1972 Lincoln Memorial penny that I am told that what has happened is another penny when stamped stuck to the die and then struck on top of this penny. This resulted in a backwards spelled America starting at the L in Liberty and a partial E pluribus unum stamped in Abe's forehead. This information makes sense and I believe this is what has happened. Part I am not understanding is that I was further told that this being the case it's not an error. So if not an error then what category does it fall into?

So any information to help me understand this is greatly appreciated thank you for letting me be here. I am looking forward to hearing everyone's input on this.

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 Posted 12/13/2021  7:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lawest to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
PMD, appears to be a vise job
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 Posted 12/13/2021  7:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wrekkdd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Unfortunately you were miss informed. This is what's called a video job, someone imprinted this design onto the coin after it left the mint so it's considered post mint damage( PMD).
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Welcome to the forum.

This is PSD. (Post Strike Damage)

Yours is not a brockage or die cap.
Check out the information at the link below about "Brockage" at Erro-ref.com
http://www.error-ref.com/brockage-full/
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 Posted 12/13/2021  8:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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So if not an error then what category does it fall into?


Damage. It didn't happen at the mint, but rather by someone trying to create an oddity. Only worth face value.


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 Posted 12/13/2021  8:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sirguardian to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with Lawest, vise job.
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again, and with all of the above, a vise job. If this were a genuine double strike, all the lettering would be raised, not incuse into the coin.
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It's a VISE job, not a vise job.
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Could be an undercover vise job, but more realistically a VISE job, where two coins in some teenager's basement were squeezed thought trying to create a one-of-a-kind super rare error coin. The proof is the backward lettering. Sorry, this isn't a mint error, it's just post mint damage.

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 Posted 12/13/2021  9:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dearborn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If it were a first strike brockage, the image would be incused and the lettering would be backwards, almost like the coin presented above, BUT, it would be centered and the obverse device would be absent. (no Lincoln bust and so forth.)

Here is an example of a brockage:
https://www.error-ref.com/first-strike-brockages/
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On the die, the devices are incuse and mirrored. When a coin is struck the devices are raised and normal. This transfer was from other coin. Thus they are mirrored and incuse. So this was not a die issue, but a transfer from another coin. PSD. Spender.
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