Questions On Lincoln Memorials And Wheats For That Matter

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grospoisson Pillar of the Community United States 984 Posts	Posted 12/15/2021 2:25 pm I have researched this for a few days and can't seem to find a satisfactory answer. I have several memorials that have one or two steps on the reverse and the rest is smooth. First thought is weak strike, so I look at the lettering of united states of America and all letters are sharp and bold. Second I look at memorial building and every detail above the column is complete meaning the swirls above are all complete. Is this still a weak strike? 2nd Question (although I said only one) When looking a memorial under a scope there appears to be multitudes of specks of sand but much smaller than a grain of sand. Is this an indicator of late die strike? I have pictures at home but unfortunately not there right now. I have researched this on several occasions. Anyone care to weigh in. Report this Post to the Staff

John1 Moderator United States 56855 Posts	Posted 12/15/2021 2:26 pm We will need good photos to really help you. John1 Report this Post to the Staff
T-BOP Rest in Peace United States 18456 Posts	Posted 12/15/2021 2:50 pm While full steps are not attributed on Lincoln Memorials it is an indicator of a gem EDS . Are the tiny specks that you see, seen under a microscope ? Report this Post to the Staff
Coinfrog Bedrock of the Community United States 94367 Posts	Posted 12/15/2021 3:43 pm Pics really needed! Report this Post to the Staff
Keith67 Pillar of the Community United States 6526 Posts	Posted 12/15/2021 3:44 pm Going to need pics Report this Post to the Staff
Dearborn Moderator United States 95423 Posts	Posted 12/15/2021 3:47 pm Thanks for your questions, but, Collecting since 1972. Learning from then on "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." - Benjamin Franklin 7070 type set coin count: 51/76 Uncirculated American Silver Eagles My American Silver Eagle Proof Collection Sacagawea Dollars Innovation Dollars Eisenhower-Dollars Kennedy-Half Dollars Washington-Quarters Roosevelt-Dimes Buffalo-Nickels 1938-2005 Jefferson-Nickels Lincoln-Cents Report this Post to the Staff
grospoisson Pillar of the Community United States 984 Posts	Posted 12/15/2021 6:14 pm These are the coins I was curious about? I put obverse and reverse to show they were not zincolns. Both coins are at a slight angle so the top of the memorial building looks weaker on the left side. All I can tell you is both buildings are full at the top. The last photo of the 1976 reverse is actually more detailed than the first photo. It's the angle of the top. That's how the steps look. Edited by grospoisson 12/15/2021 6:19 pm Report this Post to the Staff
T-BOP Rest in Peace United States 18456 Posts	Posted 12/15/2021 9:12 pm Wait for Badthad to comment on the steps issue . The tiny white specks could be just dust on the coins when your photographing them . Before you shoot take a very soft small paint brush and lightly brush any particles that may be on the coins . Report this Post to the Staff
BadThad Bedrock of the Community United States 19937 Posts	Posted 12/15/2021 10:54 pm Quote: I have several memorials that have one or two steps on the reverse and the rest is smooth. First thought is weak strike, so I look at the lettering of united states of America and all letters are sharp and bold. Second I look at memorial building and every detail above the column is complete meaning the swirls above are all complete. Is this still a weak strike? There is no single answer for this. The steps vary for many reasons, mostly incomplete die filling and over-used hubs/dies. There have also been some changes/modifications of the master reverse hub over the decades. For example, in 1980 they removed the fine detail from the steps, they became little more than a few bumps. 1985 marked the return of a fresh 19 step design. However, the master die was poorly made and working dies wore quickly and problems with the copper plating covered step detail on most coins. The point is, to answer your question, you'll have to post a specific year and question. Lincoln Cent Lover! VERDI-CARE™ INVENTOR https://verdi.care/ Report this Post to the Staff
BadThad Bedrock of the Community United States 19937 Posts	Posted 12/15/2021 11:06 pm Quote: These are the coins I was curious about? The 19 step design started in 1959. The hubs and dies were fresh and the steps were one of the finest details on the coins. The mints were producing billions of Lincolns yearly from 1959 up so the hubs and dies wore rapidly. You can see the progression of the reverse hub degradation from year to year up to 1980 when the mint apparently gave up on the reverse and went to the "8 bumps" design. Part of this was in preparation for the copper plated zinc coins coming in 1982. The course step design reduced the chances of splitting the plating. Lincoln Cent Lover! VERDI-CARE™ INVENTOR https://verdi.care/ Report this Post to the Staff
BadThad Bedrock of the Community United States 19937 Posts	Posted 12/15/2021 11:14 pm The the 1979 & 1976 - you will never find these with full steps. The master reverse hub was cooked through the mid-late 70's and it produced horrible working hubs and dies with weak, muddled step detail. I would trade my SVDB for a full, 19-step 1976 MS red coin! Lincoln Cent Lover! VERDI-CARE™ INVENTOR https://verdi.care/ Report this Post to the Staff
BadThad Bedrock of the Community United States 19937 Posts	Posted 12/15/2021 11:20 pm The 1976 in my personal collect sucks so bad I don't have a picture of it. LOL It a coin on my find list still. I have found a couple nice woody's while searching: Lincoln Cent Lover! VERDI-CARE™ INVENTOR https://verdi.care/ Report this Post to the Staff
BadThad Bedrock of the Community United States 19937 Posts	Posted 12/15/2021 11:23 pm My 1979 is one of the few years that has not made it into an Airtite for me. The reverse has some light toning and ghosting on the reverse. I'm still looking for a better one! This is a TOUGH year to find quality examples. Lincoln Cent Lover! VERDI-CARE™ INVENTOR https://verdi.care/ Edited by BadThad 12/15/2021 11:24 pm Report this Post to the Staff
grospoisson Pillar of the Community United States 984 Posts	Posted 12/16/2021 06:57 am [[/While full steps are not attributed on Lincoln Memorials it is an indicator of a gem EDS . Are the tiny specks that you see, seen under a microscope ?]] I AM TRYING TI PLEASE THE QUOTE GODS Edited by grospoisson 12/16/2021 06:59 am Report this Post to the Staff
grospoisson Pillar of the Community United States 984 Posts	Posted 12/16/2021 07:10 am Quote: While full steps are not attributed on Lincoln Memorials it is an indicator of a gem EDS . Are the tiny specks that you see, seen under a microscope ? Trying to please the respectable members. Hey I did it, now I need to remember how I just did that. I don't want to lose coinfrog, hfjacinto and Tbop and mentors and especially BadThad. For sure I want to make John1 happy. Dang it, I typed too much and forgot how I did that. on to emojis Hey did that also now back to learning coins! Edited by grospoisson 12/16/2021 08:50 am Report this Post to the Staff
T-BOP Rest in Peace United States 18456 Posts	Posted 12/16/2021 12:26 pm Well there ya go , that wasn't so hard was it . Now your cooking with gas . Report this Post to the Staff
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