1909 S VDB Lincoln Wheat Cent Fake/Counterfeit - Chinese Fake

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tropicalbats Pillar of the Community United States 6108 Posts	Posted 12/26/2021 5:02 pm These have been posted before, but putting up another as a reminder to keep alert when buying expensive stuff. This is a Chinese counterfeit, and a pretty bad one at that. But the key marker for these is a small die/mold gouge on the inside middle of the left wheat. And notably, this isn't the only date they counterfeited using this reverse, so any iffy-looking rare dates should be checked for that marker. Plus the thing only weighs 2.70g. 1909-S VDB Lincoln Wheat cent counterfeit - Chinese fake 2.70g Report this Post to the Staff

Coinfrog Bedrock of the Community United States 94367 Posts	Posted 12/26/2021 5:06 pm Thanks, most instructive as always. Report this Post to the Staff
Yorkish Valued Member United States 255 Posts	Posted 12/26/2021 5:08 pm I appreciate the heads up on this. Who would have thought people would have so little to do with their time that they'd make counterfeit pennies? Report this Post to the Staff
tropicalbats Pillar of the Community United States 6108 Posts	Posted 12/26/2021 5:10 pm Well if real that would be a $1500 coin, so I can see why they do it. Report this Post to the Staff
CoinHI Pillar of the Community United States 2731 Posts	Posted 12/26/2021 5:11 pm Thanks, great info. "Pride is yoked with callous behavior, as humility is with compassion." St. Gregory Palamas Top Finds - 1969-S 1c FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/477681 1976 D WQ FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/382777 - 1968 D 1c FS-801 http://goccf.com/t/422254 Cool clashed dies - 1972 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/429855&SearchTerms=CCL Struck-In Rim Burr - 1969 S 1c http://goccf.com/t/425587&SearchTerms=burr Floating (Type II) Counterclash - 1978 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/434991&SearchTerms=1978 Report this Post to the Staff
coop Bedrock of the Community United States 62064 Posts	Posted 12/26/2021 5:12 pm The grain on the reverse design looks like a sand cast coin: Fake counterfeit example: Looks like the same fake reverse die: So how are the real one and the fake one looking side by side? Report this Post to the Staff
ijn1944 Bedrock of the Community United States 19129 Posts	Posted 12/26/2021 5:13 pm Yes, the classic fake. Good reminder. Report this Post to the Staff
Yorkish Valued Member United States 255 Posts	Posted 12/26/2021 5:13 pm @tropicalbats No I get that part of it, it's just sad that they bothered to fake the coin in the first place. There are a million ways to be valuable that all fall short of counterfeiting currency lol Report this Post to the Staff
sheldius Pillar of the Community United States 1204 Posts	Posted 12/27/2021 12:11 am Thanks for the reminder. Is this a sand cast fake or a sputter die? Report this Post to the Staff
tropicalbats Pillar of the Community United States 6108 Posts	Posted 12/27/2021 12:20 am I always assumed it was sand cast, but honestly I have no idea for sure with these since the reverse was used with several obverses. Report this Post to the Staff
Dearborn Moderator United States 95200 Posts	Posted 12/27/2021 5:10 pm Thanks TB for the reminder of fakes on the 1909 coins. Collecting since 1972. Learning from then on "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." - Benjamin Franklin 7070 type set coin count: 51/76 Uncirculated American Silver Eagles My American Silver Eagle Proof Collection Sacagawea Dollars Innovation Dollars Eisenhower-Dollars Kennedy-Half Dollars Washington-Quarters Roosevelt-Dimes Buffalo-Nickels 1938-2005 Jefferson-Nickels Lincoln-Cents Report this Post to the Staff
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1909 S VDB Lincoln Wheat Cent Counterfeit - Chinese Fake