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2020 P Roosevelt 10c-Obverse Planchet Defect Or Scratch?

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I initially believed this to be a scratch on the obverse of this dime. However upon closer examination it appears to be a perfectly straight line incuse indentation which extends under the Y in LIBERTY and also onto two of the adjacent rims. Since there is no evidence of a scratch or damage on the Y could this be a planchet defect?
Thanks for your input.


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I think these are just scratches.
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 Posted 01/03/2022  07:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add VestigeWolf to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It could be a planchet defect since it is incused. Let's see what other have to say also.
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Just scratches by a foreign object even though seem to be straight, you can see the start of the scratch over the Rim and exiting over the opposite rim.

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Has anyone ever seen planchet defects similar to this? What leads me to believe this was a pre-strike defect is that the Y in LIBERTY does not have a scratch or contact line going through it---which would indicate that the defect or scratch was on the planchet pre-strike. Does this provide evidence of a pre-strike defect?
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 Posted 01/03/2022  11:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add VestigeWolf to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That is a good question I hope you will get an answer to. I notice the scratches are not parallel on field and rim based on pictures provided.
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Has anyone ever seen planchet defects similar to this? What leads me to believe this was a pre-strike defect is that the Y in LIBERTY does not have a scratch or contact line going through it---which would indicate that the defect or scratch was on the planchet pre-strike. Does this provide evidence of a pre-strike defect?

The only problem with your theory is that if there was a scratch on the planchet
and with over 220 tons of pressure being applied during the striking of the coin,
the scratch would have disappeared. Look at picture #2 and you can see where
the scratch starts to follow the rim. I'm in the PMD camp.
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perhaps something was struck onto the coin. But it would have to be very thin. I would say not much if any premium for this.
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Thanks for the responses everyone.
Coop, a very interesting opinion offered that this may be a strike through. Possibly a thin piece of wire that created this incuse line?
I also see some die flow covering/overlapping a bit of the line just north of the left arm of the Y. Wouldn't that be contrary to a scratch and supportive of this being a strike though?
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If it were a thin strike though, then it would have a little rise on it. If level, then it maybe something else. It could be a seam in the laminate issue? I've seen this before, but no one had anything to about it that I remember.
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Thanks Coop, you raise two interesting possibilities: either a strike-through or a lamination seam defect. Any other opinions from the CC?
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