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1978 D LMC Appears To Have The Blakesley Effect Without The Clip Present?

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I found this 1978 D LMC that appears to have the Blakesley effect without a clip present. If had a few clipped coins and sent off a few to a friend. The edge is not pinched as the last photo will show and the C in AMERICA shows the distortion associated with the Blakesley effect when above a device. I don't believe this is PSD. It's an anomaly for sure.
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 Posted 01/05/2022  12:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ijn1944 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What I'm seeing doesn't appeaser to have classic Blakesley characteristics. Just my opinion. Others will be along to weigh-in.
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Looks like PMD to me.
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Hard to tell when it's that small, but that could be the clip itself. Just a small rim clip.
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Looks like a very small edge clip. Not damage as the 'IC' on America would have also been altered by a contact mark. There was not enough metal on that area, thus the weak rim on that area. But just enough, to not leave a Blakesley affect.
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Just a baby clip.
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Just small enough to affect the rim, without weakening the devices.
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The thought never crossed my mind that this could be an actual clip itself. Interesting.
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I agree with Coop that this is most likely a tiny clip. These are often referred to as "rim clips" or "disc clips". As the coin expands and pushes into the collar, the concave profile of the clip is erased, but there is insufficient metal to fill the dies' rim gutters. Hence the weakness.
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Always learning!
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Thanks Mike for your confirmation. Always appreciated here.
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I am sticking with PMD,the damage extends from the rim to Lincolns chin.
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John1, that is actually a scratch that doesn't even meet up to the rim and is not directly in line with the clip.
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Because you use the term Blakesley Effect I will give the explanation for better understand what COOP explain. Explanation of Blakesley Effect: The flattened area that occurs opposite the 'clip' on incomplete planchet coins. On very large clips many times it is not show.
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