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Is This A Contemporary Counterfeit 1858 Trime?

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This one I picked up about a year and a half ago from a dear fellow coin dealer who also was thinking it was a contemporary counterfeit. Considering how mushy the devices are, is what lead us to that possibility.
So I am just wondering everyone's thoughts

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 Posted 01/07/2022  9:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Agree, surely this is a counterfeit.
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 Posted 01/07/2022  9:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have no idea about contemporary (= forgery?), but
it most certainly appears to be a counterfeit.
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 Posted 01/07/2022  10:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@mrw, what is the weight?
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 Posted 01/08/2022  09:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add realeswatcher to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Interesting piece, particularly crude, and not the typical 1861 date. Certainly presents as contemporary. Condition is a bit unfortunate, but still collectible to the target audience.

Note how lopsided the shield is!
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 Posted 01/08/2022  11:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mrwhatisit to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hey all, I'll get the weight when I get home
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 Posted 10/11/2022  08:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mrwhatisit to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Time to revive this a bit...

Badmetalcoin.com is selling the exact same coin with the same markers for $99.00! One matching marker is the die lines around the word OF.
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It looks like a lead casting. Did you ever check the weight?
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Haven't got the weight since I need a new scale
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I'll say it's real. Looks too messed up to be fake, if that makes any sense.
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 Posted 10/11/2022  5:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mrwhatisit to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Indeed, that is the one I mentioned...
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BTW, if you follow through to the BadMetal site, he's taking pre-orders for the volume, expected to be printed in early November.
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 Posted 10/12/2022  3:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add edweather to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ok,fake
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 Posted 10/12/2022  4:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jimbucks to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hopefully you didn't pay over $5 for it.
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 Posted 10/13/2022  11:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mrwhatisit to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I actually only got this for $3.00...
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