1975 Uncirculated Set Penny Doubled Die? A Worn Die? Somethings Off, Any Ideas?

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Mrjessestrong New Member Canada 6 Posts	Posted 01/17/2022 8:27 pm Hello, I recently bought this set on an auction because it had a note in handwriting attached that said 1975 ghost penny. I received it today and the penny is not at all what I know to be ghosted. Basically a very late stage worn die. It's in plastic still but upon inspection under the miscroscope it looks as though the whole obverse is doubled. I couldn't be and probably am wrong. But I wanted to post to get other opinions. If it looks like it is doubled or the opinion is split I'll take it out and take new photos. This is my first time posting here so forgive me if I've posted in the wrong section or posted something that's already been discussed a dozen times. Also, I had to use the optimizer to resize the photos, they might be even worse than the originals. If it's too poor I'll have to try again. Thanks for your help. Edited by Mrjessestrong 01/18/2022 05:54 am Report this Post to the Staff

Smallcentguy Pillar of the Community Canada 1984 Posts	Posted 01/17/2022 9:10 pm Welcome! it is always a good thing to do photos of the whole coin to give an overall perspective. It is rather hard to figure out exactly what the photos are showing. Report this Post to the Staff
ijn1944 Bedrock of the Community United States 19140 Posts	Posted 01/17/2022 9:16 pm Hoping to see full, large and sharp photos--ideally one coin per thread. Might be a difficult decision to remove the coins from the cello packaging. I do it all the time, but that's just me. Report this Post to the Staff
Coinfrog Bedrock of the Community United States 94367 Posts	Posted 01/17/2022 10:33 pm No clue what's going on from these images. Report this Post to the Staff
Mrjessestrong New Member Canada 6 Posts	Posted 01/18/2022 12:27 am Ya. Looks like I'll have to remove it and take proper photos. That photo editor provided when uploading photos is the same one I had on a site in 2001. I'll take better photos and edit the size in a separate program. Thanks so far for the input. Report this Post to the Staff
Mrjessestrong New Member Canada 6 Posts	Posted 01/18/2022 01:03 am Ok. Resized new photos on a separate program. I hope these are ok. I'm going to post a photo of the whole coin along with a few close ups on my microscope screen. Report this Post to the Staff
silviosi Pillar of the Community Canada 6244 Posts	Posted 01/18/2022 04:38 am I do not see a doubling here. Report this Post to the Staff
Mrjessestrong New Member Canada 6 Posts	Posted 01/18/2022 05:45 am So not doubling, what could have happened here? In the photo that includes the full "1 cent" I tried to show the extremely sloped edges between the lobes of the leaf. Every other penny I have compared have real defined, 90% edges. It's a very gradual slope that come off the edges of the leaf a long way. The photo of the stems of the leaf isn't great but that's another area where all of the edges are gradual. The small lines you see on the inside of the stems are where the edges end. Then again there's that almost webbing between the lobes on the outside of the bottom leaf. It's just something I've never seen and when I pulled out a few dozen pennies of the same year and surrounding I couldn't find anything similar. Doubling maybe isn't the terminology I should have used in my question. Does anybody know how this might have happened? Is it something you've seen many times? I appreciate the feedback thus far. Report this Post to the Staff
john100 Pillar of the Community Canada 5324 Posts	Posted 01/18/2022 08:20 am If you need a scope to see anything, how would a variety or error collector pay a premium for something you can"t readily see ? Report this Post to the Staff
SPP-Ottawa Moderator Canada 10456 Posts	Posted 01/18/2022 08:23 am Sometimes, the RCM lacquered the 1-cent coins in their PL and SP sets. This is looks like a combination of two things: over-polishing of the reverse die, with lacquer shouldering the devices. "Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert Oppenheimer Content of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_US My eBay store Report this Post to the Staff
jbuck Moderator United States 188052 Posts	Posted 01/18/2022 09:20 am to the Community! Coin Collector Since 1978 Avatar Old Avatar 7070 Eisenhower Australia Canada World CCF Members on eBay CCF eBay Search Engine Report this Post to the Staff
Mrjessestrong New Member Canada 6 Posts	Posted 01/18/2022 10:36 am Who said anything about selling this coin at a premium, John? I sure didn't. I'm asking how it happened. SPP, thank you for your input. I appreciate you taking the time to explain that to me. Report this Post to the Staff
chadcoins Pillar of the Community Canada 1159 Posts	Posted 01/18/2022 10:58 am This is a stock picture I had on hand of the ghosting your questioning about. Examined many of these 1975 sets and they are fairly common. It is kinda cool. Report this Post to the Staff
okiecoiner Pillar of the Community Canada 5585 Posts	Posted 01/18/2022 12:18 pm To me, it just looks like light reflecting/refracting off the tapered font of the design elements. The dies are tapered so that the planchet doesn't stay stuck in the die. Maybe they changed the angle or design of the die taper. If there was no light reflection from the taper, there would be no ghosting. Report this Post to the Staff
Mrjessestrong New Member Canada 6 Posts	Posted 01/19/2022 12:35 am Thanks a lot Chad, for that photo. That's exactly what the coin I have looks like. Something I haven't come across so I was interested to know a little bit about it. I appreciate you pulling that photo up to post. Report this Post to the Staff
SPP-Ottawa Moderator Canada 10456 Posts	Posted 01/19/2022 12:36 pm Here is what happens when you severely overpolish a reverse die... elements close to the level of the fields, blend in with the fields. "Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert Oppenheimer Content of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_US My eBay store Report this Post to the Staff
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