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Can A Crustied Buf Clean Up To An MS Specimen? (1913 Nickel)

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I need a grade on this; it appears very nice under all that junk. The eyeball and horn really stand out.

Plus I don't know if graders would take away or detail a grade for crud that possibly appears not to have etched into the patina.

I'll post this in the cleaning forum too but first wanted get reactions on what would be the best course of action considering time spent, value & ROI.

If there are similar looking nickel coins' before and after-cleaning shots, please post a link.


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Looks to be EF details (severe environmental damage). Perhaps buried at one point. Cannot be restored.
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Unfortunately, your coin is quite damaged--the coin's metal surfaces have been altered by the harsh environment it's been subjected to. My opinion, based on the photos I'm seeing.
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I've seen many Buffalo nickels that look exactly like that . As mentioned above probably came from the ground .These can not be cleaned in any way no matter what you try .
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TPG's won't detail a coin if crud was removed that never affected the coin's surface. Light PVC on the coin's surface can be removed safely, without leaving any strange look that would detail the coin. But this coin exhibits heavy corrosion. When it is removed, the surface of the coin will look like moon craters.
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This coin cannot be restored. Value is little. Can we move on?
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. DOA
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Spender. I wouldn't waste much time with it.
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RIP poor buff.
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Of course you CAN clean it with a variety of chemicals that would not react with the nickel but would dislodge much of the crud and some of the oxidants, but you would still have an obviously damaged coin riddled with porosity that may look even worse.

If you want to restore it you would have to smooth it mechanically. This requires specialist equipment and machinist skills. You'll lose some detail, but the result may actually look quite nice. Only the best at it could leave it looking genuine, and even that won't fool a TPG. It's an option for very badly damaged tough-date coins that are extremely difficult to source.
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I would bother too much with this coin, best left well alone.
Better to go looking for a near equivalent coin.
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A good date for this coin, but unfortunately permanently damaged.
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Considering the coin shown... was this actually a serious question?!
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Quote:
.serious question?!


It is a serious question intended to determine if this type of residue might have a remedy similar in nature to how VerdiCare conserves coins having verdigris.
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