1982 Large Date Lincoln Cent - Lots O' Die Cracks

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Parnelli917 Valued Member United States 392 Posts	Posted 01/29/2022 1:50 pm I don't have any grand expectations about this coin, more of an education value for me. This is a fairly clean, circulated 1982 LMC. The obverse looked typical, but then I looked at the reverse. Lots of die cracks and anomalies that are confusing. I included lots of arrows. Sorry for the large number of photos. None of the lines seem to be incused (but I could be wrong). The diagonal line between columns 3 and 4 looks like the lower section is raised above the level of the upper section. My question is, what happened here? Is this simply an example of very late stage die? Poor Zincoid quality? Linear plating issues? A combination of multiple issues? I would appreciate your review of this coin. Report this Post to the Staff

Spence Moderator United States 34427 Posts	Posted 01/29/2022 1:53 pm @parn, my vote is for a variety of issues. For sure that is a nice die crack on the right side of the Lincoln Memorial, but that looks more like a linear plating bubble on the left side. I'd be interested to hear if you can depress it all with the tip of a wooden toothpick. In between the columns, those extra marks are often times clashes. Have you used an overlay to see if these details match up with Abe's portrait from the front? "If you climb a good tree, you get a push." -----Ghanaian proverb "The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed." -----King Adz Report this Post to the Staff
Dearborn Moderator United States 97310 Posts	Posted 01/29/2022 2:27 pm The line that goes through the 'D' in United, is far too straight to be a crack, and it does not go over the device (D) until it gets to the roof of the monument, it then seems to 'bounce over the raised edge of the roof then into the base of the die. I think it could be a scratch on the die. On the right side, they look like die cracks to me. Collecting since 1972. Learning from then on "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." - Benjamin Franklin 7070 type set coin count: 51/76 Uncirculated American Silver Eagles My American Silver Eagle Proof Collection Sacagawea Dollars Innovation Dollars Eisenhower-Dollars Kennedy-Half Dollars Washington-Quarters Roosevelt-Dimes Buffalo-Nickels 1938-2005 Jefferson-Nickels Lincoln-Cents Edited by Dearborn 01/29/2022 2:29 pm Report this Post to the Staff
Coinfrog Bedrock of the Community United States 94367 Posts	Posted 01/29/2022 2:54 pm I think Spence describes it well. Report this Post to the Staff
Parnelli917 Valued Member United States 392 Posts	Posted 01/29/2022 2:57 pm I thought the same thing. Too straight to be a crack. I'll try the toothpick. Report this Post to the Staff
-makecents- Pillar of the Community United States 8784 Posts	Posted 01/29/2022 3:54 pm I agree with Spence on what is happening here and Dearborn's assessment of a die scratch. There is a lot going on in the lower part of the bays and may just simply be die scratches but might also be counter clashes from the columns/bays, very cool looking. A very nice, straight line of sorts at the bottom of the "N" of UNITED too. I'm surprised there isn't more going on, clash wise, with the obverse but maybe the die was changed out. Nice pics! -makecents- Report this Post to the Staff
Parnelli917 Valued Member United States 392 Posts	Posted 01/29/2022 4:15 pm I tried to push the crack with a toothpick but I can't tell if it compressed or not, so I took a closer look and changed lighting. Now it looks a bit more like a crack. @Spence I used a 1982 die clash overlay and it looks like the line between columns 3 and 4 are part of an inverse Lincoln. Also, the line through the D is very close to where the lower part of his shoulder would be. Couldn't see any evidence of a clash on the obverse, but I'm guessing clash is one of the culprits. Thanks everyone. I appreciate the feedback! It is definitely a cool coin. I'll keep it for reference. Report this Post to the Staff
Dearborn Moderator United States 97310 Posts	Posted 01/29/2022 5:56 pm Well with this new close-up picture, I'm changing my thoughts to a die crack. It is raised and does go over the D as well. Collecting since 1972. Learning from then on "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." - Benjamin Franklin 7070 type set coin count: 51/76 Uncirculated American Silver Eagles My American Silver Eagle Proof Collection Sacagawea Dollars Innovation Dollars Eisenhower-Dollars Kennedy-Half Dollars Washington-Quarters Roosevelt-Dimes Buffalo-Nickels 1938-2005 Jefferson-Nickels Lincoln-Cents Report this Post to the Staff
Parnelli917 Valued Member United States 392 Posts	Posted 01/29/2022 7:42 pm @Dearborn, Yeah it is one messed up coin. If you look at the full reverse photo you can see a discoloration below the memorial building. It appears to be the shape of Lincoln's inverted head. I'm guessing there was a clash that maybe caused all the cracks(?). Its hard to say with these Zicoins. But its a keeper Report this Post to the Staff
merclover Bedrock of the Community United States 10635 Posts	Posted 01/30/2022 01:13 am Clash? No, just die cracks. Report this Post to the Staff
John1 Moderator United States 56855 Posts	Posted 01/30/2022 04:03 am 3rd and 4th bay are from a die clash. John1 Report this Post to the Staff
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