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Athena Herakles Wrestling Nemean Lion - Authenticity?

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Hello everyone, I've been wanting to get an ancient coin for my nephew with a wrestling theme. However, I'm not a collector of Greek coinage so I'm still unsure of what to look for. I looked through fake coin reports, but didn't find a match. Of course, I can get a certified coin, but they are out of my budget.
This one came up, but not sure of it's authenticity or even if the style is correct. What's strangling -vs- wrestling?

First glance the fabric looks good, but what are the holes on the front and back? Is it part of the design or was it holed at one time and then filled? Or maybe it's a cast of a coin that was holed. Sorry I don't have any dimensions or weight at this point. Thanks
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 Posted 02/15/2022  6:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I could be wrong, I often am but I don't like the looks of this coin. The raised rim on the reverse just doesn't look right to me along with the overall appearance of the coin.
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 Posted 02/15/2022  7:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree looks questionable. Can you please post a pic or two of the edge? Thx.
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The more examples I see, the more I'm agreeing with you guys. Spence, if I had the coin in hand, I would. Really hard to judge a coin just from pics, unless it's an obvious fake. What do you make of the holes?
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I'm not sure exactly. It could be where someone purposefully tried to obscure the word "COPY" or any of a thousand other things. It is this region that has me the most convinced that it is cast as this looks a lot like a parting line along the edge:

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I would just avoid this one and look what else is available.
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Whatever you get, buy from a reputable dealer who will guarantee (money back) authenticity.
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Quote:
maybe it's a cast of a coin that was holed


Even before I read this I had the same thought.
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Thanks for all your input, I had doubts about the coin. However, I like to hear everybodys thoughts as I have learned a lot over the years through the forum. Oriole, yes that's what I might have to do as again I'm not familiar with these types.

As they say "Know the coin or Know the seller".
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