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1972 D Lincoln Cent, Memorial Is Crooked Or Risen Or Flattened (Not Sure At All)

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 Posted 02/27/2022  4:23 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Kilsamilsa to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi! I'm a newbie, but I don't have to be new to see there's something going on with this coin.
There are either risen or flattened spots on the memorial that caused it to be crooked. I went to error.ref, but no pictures really match, so I'll have to read through them all and try to pinpoint what caused this. Does anyone happen to know off hand? Has anyone seen this before? Thank you in advance!
I might have an issue with uploading more than one image from my phone, so I'm hoping to be able to post the rest in the comments.
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 Posted 02/27/2022  6:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@kils, first welcome to CCF. Second, I see what you mean about the Lincoln Memorial having flat spots. This might be from being Struck Through Grease, but also could be just damage. I'm hoping that you have success adding a pic of the front of this coin to the thread so that we can get a better idea of what happened. Thx.
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 Posted 02/27/2022  7:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Indirect die transfer?
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The coin itself isn't warped. It's perfectly flat. It just looks warped!



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It has a weak strike...
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Some reasons for a less desirable strike:
1. If the planchet is under weight it will have a weak strike up because of not enough material to strike up the whole design.
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2. If there is grease filling in certain areas of the devices, they will be partial strikes or totally gone if the grease has filled the devices almost full.
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3. Often on the Memorial cents the area on States of can be weak from two different issues:
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4. Circulation can wear away the design off a coin:
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5. Weak/low pressure strikes can make a poor strike on a coin:
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6. Die Cuds can leave a missing area on the one side raised above the rim edge and even leave a weakness because of the lack of the resistance from the missing void on the opposite die.
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7. Water or oil on the fields of the dies can leave an area lacking the normal view we expect on a coin.
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Incuse area on the fields:
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8. Struck through a capped die:
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9. Struck through debris during the strike:
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10. Damage to the die:
Die clashes:

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So this is the top 10 events that can alter the surface of the coin during the striking process. I could of added hundreds of images more on each subject. But this is the short Readers Digest condensed version.

CoopHome: What can prevent/alter/happen to alter the strike on a coin that happen at the mint? (Sorry #4 is a post strike event, circulation wear. It does alter the coin, but didn't happen at the mint.)

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I have a 1971 d that looks wavy something like your. Mine has an excellent strike. My penny is uneven. Goes up & down due to uneven sidr. Other side is flat. Look at your penny from the sides. Mine the edge is thin in spots & goes thicker in others. Take a peek at it sideways. Took me awhile to figure it out
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to the OP and to you Jody.
This is an interesting cent the OP posted up. a weak strike? very interesting indeed.
jody, if you think you have a coin just like this one, please post it up so we can compare the 2.
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Thanks Coop. I need to figure out how to print those pics out and keep them handy as a reference.
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That would be a lot of paper. Just bookmark it.
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I noticed my coin is thinner in an area, starting from the edge to the middle of the coin.The copper is actually high & low in spots. Here's a pic of the front & some different angles pic of the back
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1972-D-Lincoln-Cent,-Memorial-Is-Crooked-Or-Risen--Or-Flattened-Not-Sure-At-Allhere is front pic
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Appears to be a PIDT effect.
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