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These cardboard disc made of paper carton with stamps were used as coins during the second Spanish Republic of 1938. During that time metal was very scarce.

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Yep. They're the only thing in my collection that can both (a) fit into a 2x2 and (b) be found in the Pick banknote catalogue.
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That is so cool! I have heard of stamps being used as currency but I never knew exactly. Seeing them pasted on cardboard would certainly help with durability.

Thanks for posting! :-)

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Never knew about them, thanks!
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I've never heard anything like that. Thanks.
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ooooo... were these issued by the government? And the Royal Seal: was it just printed on or struck with a die?
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Yes, these were issued by one of the Spanish governments. But these were issued during the Spanish civil war; there was no single "Spanish government".

That's not the "royal seal"; as indicated by the shape of the crown, and the name on the revenue stamps, these were issued by the Republic side during the Spanish civil war. The Royalists were on the other side.

The coat of arms is printed onto the cardboard with ink, but the printing is heavily recessed into the surface, so some kind of heavy die-stamp would have been used.

Physically, these stamp/coin/banknotes resemble old-style cardboard milk bottle tops; they were probably produced using machinery intended for this purpose.
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Yes, these were issued by the Republican government, I think they only used printing plates for this. I don't know if dies can be used for this.

The seal is not a royal seal as this was during the 2nd republic which was against monarchy. They expelled the King.
The crown is a mural crown. Also you will notice that no royal crowns on top of the Pillars of Hercules and the Royal arms of the Kings Bourbon-Anjou (3 fleur-de-lis) is not present in the center.

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these were issued during the Spanish civil war; there was no single "Spanish government".


The Spanish government then was just the Republican Government. They won the elections and exiled the King. Then the Royalist army generals started a coup d'etat and the conflict started the civil war from 1936-1939. The rebels (royalist later nationalist) won the war and Franco did not give back the power to the king, He proclaimed himself Generalisimo of Spain until his death in 1975.
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