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Hi all, Still searching for my first DDO...I came across this 1962-D Penny and I noticed the E looked funny as well as some of the other letters, but the top portion of the E mostly stood out to me. I checked varietyvista but didn't come across one that looks similar to mine... Also the mintmark, looks re-punched, but not sure--I see what looks to me like Die Deterioration on the outskirts of the D outline, then within that, not sure if it's MD or if it's an RPM. Here are some Pics to show what I mean: Date and Mintmark  "In"  "GOD"  "WE"--is that another 'E' emerging?  "TRU"  "ST"  Will post more pics upon request. What do y'all think? Thanks for stopping by. Edited by Houler
03/20/2022 08:31 am
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Pillar of the Community
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Much of what you have going on around the perimeter is as you said, deterioration, along with the east side of the mm. To the west of the date and mm is MD. You might try to get a clean pic with no shadows on the inside of the 2 though, I see similarities to this DDO listing but cannot tell for sure. cc-002 https://coppercoins.com/lincoln/die...ie_state=mds-makecents-
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Pillar of the Community
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I do not think there is an RPM. With these pics, it looks like MD and maybe a hit/damage. I circled the area I was referring too and gave you the link to check out.  -makecents-
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I agree it just looks like a normal mintmark with all that light on it. About that 2, Looks like dents from circulation to me, scratches even: Edit* looking at it again, looks like something is going on with the diagonal of the 2 closeup of the 2 with some lighting  closeup of the 2 with more lighting  Curious as to what you think about the 'E' in "WE"? Edited by Houler
03/20/2022 09:51 am
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Curious as to what you think about the 'E' in "WE"? Extreme deterioration and maybe a hit/damage, maybe even a small die crack running through it. -makecents-
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It looks like a DDD ,particularly noticeable on the GOD devices. |
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@-makecents-, I did not notice that as a crack, now that you mention it I see it as a crack, I thought the crack was the top of the first E, and the space past above the crack was the top portion of the 2nd 'E', and the space above the 2nd line of the 'E' was the 2nd 'E.' @Chase007 - I notice alot of DDD as well, thanks for commenting btw Do y'all see anything going on with the diagonal of the '2'? I didn't think to look at the 2 until -makecents- pointed it out. Subtle doubling?  Edited by Houler
03/20/2022 10:18 am
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After you got good light on that area, I do not see any doubling. Just thought you should check, this is a common area for this date that is often overlooked. Here is 1962P-1DO-028 I found in a bank roll.  -makecents-
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03/20/2022 11:11 am
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Bedrock of the Community
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Looks like a normal coin form what I can see. The mintmarks that year had an issue with damage to the punch. So during the year they replaced the punch:  A lot of these looked like that on the bottom left serif area. Not a RPM. The 'E' is damaged by Machine Doubling. So there is no extra material on that area. It is the pushed aside of the Machine Doubling that you are seeing. Regardless of what happens during the strike, the coin goes in with a certain weight, comes out with the same weight, unless a piece of die is struck into the coin, or unless material from another coin gets struck into the coin. So a cud/mintmark/die chips happen on the strike, they weight will be normal. The metal is just moved around to strike up what material is there. If the weight is off the devices will be weaker on thinned areas of the planchet/now coin. |
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The 2 I was thinking something was up with the curve of the diagonal but it's just a curve, you're right it's just a normal 2 in my pic. @-makecents- Hmmm.. looking at your pic, I'm still not used to seeing doubled die's that subtle, it looks just like a normal mark on a coin to me. Machine Doubling! My arch nemesis strikes again, lol. It did not look like the MD I'm used to seeing. Earlier I was reasoning with myself, watch someone come up with a legitimate exaplanation that it's a MD or something... I'm glad I posted as I'm sure it will help future newbies who lurk by and read posts. Thanks for the informative explanation @coop! Edited by Houler
03/20/2022 2:48 pm
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Even though mine is a Philly coin, I just wanted you to see what this particular doubled die looks like and yes, it is very subtle. Here's a pic of cc's and mine. 1962P-1DO-028  -makecents-
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Thanks for sharing the pics -makecents- when I first read your previous comment was having a hard time figuring out where that Doubled Die mark was, thinking it was on the '2' itself and it couldn't be that mark to the west of the '2'. But after doing a quick google search and reading the description I figured it was that scratch-looking mark.
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Yeah, sorry, meant to give you the link and forgot.
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No apologies needed, it's good you have a picture though with the arrow pointing at the Doubled Die mark for future reference for newbies like me who might have this particular variety.
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