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1819 50c Capped Bust Half Dollar O-114, R-3

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$322. Thoughts? Thanks!

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I'll say AU-50.
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AU50 sounds right, though I can't judge surface originality from these pics.
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The challenge when grading CBH (for me) has always been distinguishing die and strike issues from actual wear due to circulation and handling.

I think AU50 is probably reasonable, all things considered.

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50
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Net AU-50 with the cleaning. Good strike overall.
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Slight wear visible on the cap, drapery, and high points of the hair. I see faint blotches in the obverse fields which might be evidence of incomplete rinsing after a dip. Otherwise, the coin appears to have escaped any abrasive cleaning or obvious abuse. Sharp obverse stars suggest the obverse die was in good condition. AU50 or 53 seems fair.

ST in STATES and the adjacent part of the motto are very weak. Is this a normal characteristic of this variety? A possible filled die scenario comes to mind.
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@paralyse

I have the same problem with those as well
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Also at AU50
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Is this a normal characteristic of this variety?

That is a normal characteristic with a significant portion of bust halves. That area on the reverse is weak in strike, because that is the deepest portion of the bust on the obverse. The metal flows through the obverse design while the reverse is left weak. The banner is almost always weak, but when STATES is weak, then it is just an even more uneven strike.
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You can see that the striking weakness in the reverse that others have pointed out carries over to the obverse at the fabric draping liberty's busom.
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Minimal wear I would say AU58
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I would also be at AU-50 depending on how bad the scratch is on the neck. I would say you did very well if this is not a details coin.
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AU-53 details, an older cleaning.
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This one finally came in. Further thoughts? Thanks1

1819-50c-Capped-Bust-Half-Dollar-O-114,-R-3
1819-50c-Capped-Bust-Half-Dollar-O-114,-R-3

Viewed with lighting at another angle.

1819-50c-Capped-Bust-Half-Dollar-O-114,-R-3
1819-50c-Capped-Bust-Half-Dollar-O-114,-R-3
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS
THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
My coin website:https://fairfaxcoins.com
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