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Possible Double Date? 1958 Dollar

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idk what this is? is it something in the minting process or did someone drop something corrosive on it at some point? also seems to look like a possible doubling on the 5 of 1958? okay so turns out the dots where just some residue with came off from a distilled water rinse. now I'm looking at a possible double date and mater planchet flaw behind the 1 and 9 of 1958 cause it looks odd whatever that mark is doesn't effect the 1 it looks like it goes under it. thanks
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 Posted 04/07/2022  08:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiecoiner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
From the magnified photos, I can't tell what's what. The coin has been heavily cleaned. Maybe they used something caustic. There's a PM stain between the 1 & 9 and the 5 looks like the tip had some dammage. It almost looks like a R/P, but the tip is the only place that it shows. It's not really a split serif.
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Not sure what you're seeing either.
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Not exactly sure what caused it but it is damage of some sort.
It didn't look like that when it was struck at the mint.
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The 5 looks like a doubled die to me. Nice split serif and separation. Doubling also visible on the other digits.
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so it turns out whatever it was it was some kind of residue cause I washed it with some distilled water and it came off lol. now I'm looking more at the possible doubled date. thanks
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I'm with Tanman2001 on this one, the split serifs on the 5 stick out like a sore thumb.

However, I have been coming across a few master die doubling examples from that era and it very well could be on every 1958 dollar so next step would be to look at a few more before it can be 100% confirmed to be a doubled die reverse.

If you find the same split serifs on the date of other 1958 dollars, then it is likely master die doubling, which would be common.

If you find no split serifs on the date of other 1958 dollars, then this example could very well be one of few, which would make it not common.

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okay Johnwayne007 here I only own 4 1958 Canadian dollars.and out of the 4, 2 seem to have the split on the 5 so I really dont know. here are the 4 coins dates. first 2 have the notch. 3rd one kind of looks like it but its just the lighting and the 4th one has no trace at all.

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Safe to say you have not just one, but TWO 1958 Doubled Die Reverse examples!

I was not aware of any doubled die examples for the 1958 silver dollar until now, awesome catch.
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okay, awesome! so should I like try to get it in as a variety
like on coinsandcanada.com? and if so how does one go on doing this?
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IMO is no doubling here. I agree that could be some, but not what I see on your coin. If we try to see doubling on all circulated and hit coins, we will imagine been. I agree with OKI and CFrog.
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here is the new pictures I got.

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I see what you see and understand, but is very substile.. I think IMO SPP or COOP (is more on US varieties) can help you with this. sorry for my part now. If I can help more, the pleasurer will be mine.
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OK, yes with the new pics I see doubling there, with a little offset.
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I think IMO SPP or COOP (is more on US varieties) can help you with this.


Not necessary. JohnWayne007 explained it perfectly.
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so is there any estimate on the value or rarity? I know canadian double dies are not very sought after.
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