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1954-S Lincoln Cent Need Help To Grade

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Spot on reverse is noticeable. grade?
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I'll say MS-66+RD.
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Again, I'm stuck on strike quality. Trying to learn and spot misses. New to the series I'm am not aware of die states. Is there weakness in the hair where it meets the head? The lapel is missing some detail. The wheat stalks and O on the reverse. The L in liberty might suggest a weaker die. Is this making any sense to anyone?
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And another nice coin from grospoisson . MS-66RB .
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Captain, of all three you post, this it is the best. I suggest you to buy the ANA grading standards book. Sorry we do not have the right to photo-copy and publish here. Will help you this book to first understand the mechanism of grading.

the reverse pass easy 66, but the observe no. I will say this 65
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EZ 66 - if the luster is there and the fields are clean it could make it to 67. Nonetheless, it seems to me the TPG's are always intentionally keeping those grades down.
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Captain, of all three you post, this it is the best. I suggest you to buy the ANA grading standards book. Sorry we do not have the right to photo-copy and publish here. Will help you this book to first understand the mechanism of grading.

the reverse pass easy 66, but the observe no. I will say this 65


Dang I thought it would have been the other way around. Anyway Silviosi, my forum friend north of the border I know seriously of everyone on the forum that you know the minting process inside and out. I for one have bought all the grading books and complete guide to the Lincoln Cent and every book I could find on the Lincoln Penny. I am still terrible at grading right now. Mostly I have read that year to year the cent is minted at different degrees of quality so following the ANA standards are adjusted accordingly. Anyone please correct me if not true. So far I have leaned on the forum for help and also comparing the coin to slabbed coins I have purchased. Most on the forum say we will never figure out the TPG's. In my short time of collecting I have already seen some curious things. I have slowed to a crawl in submitting but still want to see what you guys think. For me , finding a quality copper cent is hard no matter the date. Thanks for always helping. Silviosi , you have stated on the forum not to magnify a coin to much because every coin has flaws, I am afraid that's what I have been doing
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Not really, Years ago when by curiosity I take the grading courses with ANA, I find out many tricks. Yes we look at the coin with max 20x for old guys like me. You an 10x will be OK. Then if we see something then we look with the micro. Now let go more: you read, you compare and it is the perfect thing to do. You complete your collection by your feelings not other points of view. The major TPG's, all have different standards. Why? it is a mystery, and happened only in the coins collecting. Me I slab the coins in my own slab and put in slabs carriables design by me for me and I do not care about TPG. I send only to ANACS for a second opinion and to VSS for varieties. the rest no care.

This week was a private auction for collectors and investors, and believe me not 5% of the coins or notes was certified and some go many K's.

Conclusion IMO, you buy the books but maybe if the time permit and 125$ (approx.) take the Couse with the ANA in certification, then the experience will make you heavier and heavier (technical) not corporal LOL.

PS: When you look for grad, the first thing it is to look of the year and the period of the mint and the line of the production. An 1954 like your and an 2010 could not be mix. Manny forgot this and it is a big mistake.
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Not really, Years ago when by curiosity I take the grading courses with ANA, I find out many tricks. Yes we look at the coin with max 20x for old guys like me. You an 10x will be OK. Then if we see something then we look with the micro. Now let go more: you read, you compare and it is the perfect thing to do. You complete your collection by your feelings not other points of view. The major TPG's, all have different standards. Why? it is a mystery, and happened only in the coins collecting. Me I slab the coins in my own slab and put in slabs carriables design by me for me and I do not care about TPG. I send only to ANACS for a second opinion and to VSS for varieties. the rest no care.

This week was a private auction for collectors and investors, and believe me not 5% of the coins or notes was certified and some go many K's.

Conclusion IMO, you buy the books but maybe if the time permit and 125$ (approx.) take the Couse with the ANA in certification, then the experience will make you heavier and heavier (technical) not corporal LOL.

PS: When you look for grad, the first thing it is to look of the year and the period of the mint and the line of the production. An 1954 like your and an 2010 could not be mix. Manny forgot this and it is a big mistake.
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Very good info. Impressive that you created your own slabs. I can't seem to let go the worry I have about my collection going to waste some day. That's why I want to slab my coins from a TPG. I find it way more challenging and expensive buying rolls and searching to build a set this way. Of course , some years will have to be purchased. Most early wheats were purchased 20 years ago at way cheaper prices than now. I wish I had continued to purchase some other dates like the 09-s the 14-d 26-s 24-d in higher grades then I did and the 09-svdb (around 1400$ in 63red). I bought a 1918-s AU-58 for 18 dollars in a NGC slab back then and thought I paid to much. At 62 years old I don't have a lot of years to complete the set I want and I refuse to buy a completed set. Which would have been cheaper in the long run. It's the journey I am enjoying. I want to take the ANA course but don't know how to line everything up with my schedule. Your advice is much appreciated. You mentioned that you collect ghosted coins so I have been putting aside ones I find so I can send to you. that will happen this week.
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MS66 you pick the color
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A blazer, MS-66RD.
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