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I realize that any grade encompasses all aspects of all locations of a coin. However, I am only trying to determine the highest possible grade that this SL50C head could be associated with: if this is even possible or relevant to do... Or, another way to reword this to meet my goal would be, 'what is the highest possible MS grade that a SL50C coin could attain while having this head?  |
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Difficult question to answer. A coin can have very weak struck devices from the mint. So theoretically, a coin can be a very high MS, or even a 70 if the coin has not a single contact mark or blemish. If this were to be sent in to a TPG, they may not give it above a 64 because higher grades need better strikes in their eyes. Suffering from bust half fever. Want to learn how to attribute early half dollars by die variety? Click Here: http://goccf.com/t/434955Shoot me a PM if you are looking to sell bust halves. |
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The flatness of the side face with its apparent distinction from the rounder center/frontal section where the chin/nose section resides prompted my inquiry.
Assuming that a weak strike is not in play (which is tough to ascertain) does a normal MS-type head exhibit this flatness or would it fall into the realm of acceptability? It almost appears to have been scraped on a harder, flat and smooth substrate.
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My understanding is that strike does not affect PCGS grades up to about 65 or 66.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Why not show us the whole coin?
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.whole coin http://goccf.com/t/420688By chance, you just happened to be there already. Surface close-ups to follow as time permits. Right or wrong, I purposely separated the head so as to avoid having it influenced by the remainder of the coin and vice versa. In this case, minute differences really matter. More to follow regarding this after I get several more guesses on the grade of the full coin. |
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I am at MS65. I am not higher because of the marks on the right obverse field. The coin has minimal marks, strong luster.
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anything over MS65 is going to need a little better strike but if you have a blazing coin full luster without imperfections and great eye appeal, throw that out of the window. you cant just grade by one component.
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I just have a problem knowing how to differentiate between metal being scraped/rubbed and a weak strike on MS coins. Especially on the PhotoGrade example, the amount of extra device(s) is apparent compared to the center photo: all three MS coins. And this lack of ability to discern could and does extend to other coins; hit me with all tips.  Edited by mdpmedia
04/20/2022 4:53 pm
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The short answer is MS-68. IIRC, that's the highest grade yet given to a business strike Walker. Loss of detail can come from die state, strike quality, or die polishing without affecting the technical grade. Eye appeal adjustments can affect the final assigned grade. These issues are common in Buffs and SLQs, but certainly exist in most other series.
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just have a problem knowing how to differentiate between metal being scraped/rubbed and a weak strike on MS coins again you cant just look at one component to determine this. other areas need to be considered to determine if its a weak strike, late die state, die polishing or something else. in this case if you present the entire coin CCF should be able to determine the difference which may help you build your knowledge base for future grading. |
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. present the entire coin Just in case you missed it, Miss Liberty's up for bat at the plate. Throw her your best curveball: http://goccf.com/t/420688Edited by mdpmedia
04/21/2022 3:41 pm
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Just in case you missed it, Miss Liberty's up for bat at the plate. I didnt realize that post was your update with the full photos. westcoin and fortcollins both covered in their assessment that the coin was a weaker strike. so as stated the flat head is due to this. |
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Posted 04/20/2022 05:43 am
