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1860 Indian Head Penny

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 Posted 04/20/2022  11:41 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Dragons to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello I'm new on here. Really glad to have found this forum. My question is should I have the back of this coin cleaned? I found it many years ago in change from a gas station. It's in pretty good shape except for the green line across the reverse. Thanks in advance any info would be helpful.
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 Posted 04/21/2022  12:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You wouldn't clean it but you might want to conserve it. I would search (google) for and get hold of some VerdiCare which may be able to remove the verdigris eating away at your coin. Depending on how long it's been there, it may have eaten into the metal and removing it may reveal pits in the surface of the coin. The reason you want to conserve it with a product like VerdiCare is that the green verdigris is likely active and thus currently further eating into the coin. Solvents cannot restore metal that has been corroded, but can remove the agents currently on the coin that are further damaging it. Make sure you follow the instructions that come with the product if you choose to conserve it.

Other than for the verdigris in the reverse stripe, it is a great looking coin.

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 Posted 04/21/2022  12:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dragons to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you for the information I will definitely try using that on it. I hope it hasn't ate into the metal very much.i wanted to have it graded if it wasn't for the green spot.
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 Posted 04/21/2022  12:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jacrispies to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What a find!!

First try soaking in 100% acetone. Pat the coin dry with a microfiber cloth. Don't rub or scrape the coin, that will only damage it. Then try VerdiCare. If neither work, then the stuff is stuck on there.
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 Posted 04/21/2022  01:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Unfortunately, if we take a closer look, it seems like the metal surfaces have been altered by a substance on the coin see red indicated areas. These areas seem pitted but stable as I don't se active verdigris/corrosion. The best you may be able to do is to mitigate further damage in the upper right quadrant of the coin where the green verdigris appears to be actively corroding the coin. The conservation isn't going to yield a highly valuable coin, but it can teach you how to properly deal with an issue that affects many copper coins. Let us know what you decide to do and how it goes.

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 Posted 04/21/2022  01:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dragons to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks everyone for the information. I might try an acitone on it then try the verdicare I really hate it has eaten into the coin.
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 Posted 04/21/2022  05:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dragons to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I wonder how it would grade after taking care of the green spot. I'm sure allot less than if it didn't have it on it?
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 Posted 04/21/2022  08:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add captaincoffee to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm guessing it would grade XF details, environmental damage. Even without the damage, it isn't worth the money to get it graded IMHO.
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 Posted 04/21/2022  10:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks to be a solid EF, but I would worry about ED as well.



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To CCF , wow what a shame would have been a nice straight EF-45 if it wasn't for that reverse . Try to conserve with the Verdi-Care as much as you can but I'm afraid it will always be a details coin .
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