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Commems Collection Classic: What If? 1921 Theodore Roosevelt Two-Cent Coin

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I recently posted about Congress and bills calling for a Franklin Delano Roosevelt dime (1946 Roosevelt Dime), and wanted to circle back and present a story about how "Teddy" Roosevelt almost preceded his fifth cousin on US coinage.


The two-cents denomination almost rejoined the roster of circulating US coinage in 1921 in the form of a copper (95%) coin bearing an obverse portrait of former US President Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt and being "of such size and weight as may be necessary to distinguish it from the 1-cent pieces of similar composition."

The bill, introduced in the Senate by George Payne McLean (R-CT), specified that the coin was to include the dates of Roosevelt's birth and death along with "In God We Trust" on the obverse with the portrait. The coin's value, "E Pluribus Unum" and "United States of America" were to be placed on the coin's reverse; no other design element(s) was specified. Interestingly, the bill did not specify the side for the date/year of striking. The assumption would be on the obverse with Roosevelt's portrait - this would have made for a coin with three dates on the same side.

McLean introduced the bill at the request of an undisclosed party - a Senator from a copper-mining state such as Arizona or New Mexico perhaps?

Upon its introduction, the bill was referred to the Senate Committee on Banking and Currency. Though no formal report was issued, the Committee did view the bill favorably and its Chairman (McLean) indicated such during the Whole Senate's consideration of the bill. There was brief debate over whether the new coin was meant to fill an actual need in day-to-day commerce or if it was meant to be "just" a commemorative piece to honor Teddy Roosevelt; the question was raised by Senator William Henry King (D-UT) who stated he would only support the bill if for a circulating coin - Utah is another state that is rich in copper.

McClean reported that the Committee was told the coin was to address a true business need, and used the recent fair increases in the Washington, DC street railway system as an example. It was presented that the base fare in DC had been increased from five cents to eight cents and that transfers were changed to two cents; it was argued that the new coin would be more convenient in the payment of the new fares. In support, reference to similar transportation fare situations across the country were also cited by Senator Frank Bosworth Brandegee (R-CT).

After brief debate, the bill was passed by the Senate and sent to the House for its consideration. In the House, the bill was referred to the Committee on Coinage, Weights, and Measures. The Women's Theodore Roosevelt Memorial Association sent a letter (petition) to the House Committee stating its support for the new coin and urging the Committee to do the same.

The Committee did report the bill favorably and recommended its passage. The bill was never considered by the Whole House, however, and subsequently died for lack of action when the 66th Congress adjourned on March 4, 1921.

So, while the coinage proposal received one of the three approvals it needed (i.e., the Senate) such was not enough and no two-cent coin featuring a portrait of Theodore Roosevelt, or any other design, would be struck.


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Interesting. I think that's one we're better off without.
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Very interesting reading. Thank you for sharing. President Theodore Roosevelt still hasn't been depicted on a U.S. coin one hundred years later, even though he was instrumental in beautifying our coinage in the early decades of the last century.
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President Theodore Roosevelt still hasn't been depicted on a U.S. coin one hundred years later, even though he was instrumental in beautifying our coinage in the early decades of the last century.

Teddy Roosevelt did appear on one of the semi-circulating Presidential $1 coins in 2013.

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Very interesting, thanks for sharing.
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Very interesting!


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Teddy Roosevelt did appear on one of the semi-circulating Presidential $1 coins in 2013.
Also included in the 2013 Coin & Chronicles set, which I bought from the mint after some encouragement from your writing.
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Great thread commems, many thanks for sharing your research.
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Wow that is news. I never knew that. Thanks for the bio.Then along comes Theodore's fifth cousin named Franklin and he gets he's head on the dime. Both great men.
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Just to complete the 1920 Roosevelt story...

As noted, the bill discussed above was introduced in the Senate in January 1920. A pseudo-companion bill was introduced in the House of Representatives in January 1920 as well.

I say "pseudo" because the bill was nearly identical (vs. fully identical), except for one detail - a rather significant one! - the denomination. The House bill, introduced by Representative Albert Henry Vestal (R-IN), called for a copper 2-1/2 cent coin vs. the Senate's copper 2-cent coin. All other provisions of the House bill matched those included in the Senate version.

The bill was referred to the House Committee on Coinage, Weights, and Measures upon its introduction but never moved beyond the Committee. Vestal likely deferred to the Senate bill which was positively received and making progress. As a side note: Vestal was serving as the Chairman of the House Coinage Committee at the time.

So, no Theodore Roosevelt coins were to be approved in 1920, and Teddy would have to wait decades for his legal tender, numismatic moment.


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The House bill, introduced by Representative Albert Henry Vestal (R-IN), called for a copper 2-1/2 cent coin vs. the Senate's copper 2-cent coin.
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An old topic, but interesting information.
Did they ever come up with the design on paper to be viewed?
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Good read! Those would have been rarer than a Three Dollar Bill.
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Did they ever come up with the design on paper to be viewed?

I've never seen a published design concept - the coin proposal did not make it too far in the overall process.



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the coin proposal did not make it too far in the overall process.

Which it a terrible thing - I wish they would all be required to come up with a coin design at the beginning of a proposal. You know, for proof of concept or something..
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