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1988 DDR Or Is This MD?

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 Posted 04/25/2022  2:08 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Saukee to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Is thus a DDR or Machine Doubling? New to this Coin World and having trouble defining and correctly marking them!! Thanks for the help.

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 Posted 04/25/2022  2:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wrekkdd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
it looks like MD in the picture you posted but you should always try and post two clear full shots of the obverse and reverse along with a close up of the area you are questioning. A lot of amazing info you can get on this forum.
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Agree, looks like MD.
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. With that pic it looks like MD. Please do not post a photo of your scopes monitor screen use a memory card...thanks.
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Way to tell if it is Machine Doubling:
1. It affect the outside/insides of devices.
2. It removes the contour of the devices. To the light to dark color doesn't happen on these device. Of then the flattening causes a 90 degree angle on the devices (note this on your coin). The flattening shows a reflection of glare on devices. You see the Machine Doubling bu the glare reflects off and hides what you are seeing.
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Note how the glare hides this Machine Doubling. Inverting the colors on the coin shows what you see in the above image. On the lower image is what we see. The glare hides it. But that is typical for Machine Doubling.
3. The cause for Machine Doubling is right after the strike happens, the machine damages the coin. Even doubled dies can have Machine Doubling on them:
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Note on this image, the big DDO for 1969-S is seen on the date devices, but then note the yellow arrows? That show the removal of the contour of those devices. So Machine Doubling is a post strike issue. A doubled die has the doubling on the die. So post strike, a doubled die can be altered. But Machine Doubling never creates a doubled die. Because it is die doubling, it is on the die. So a doubled die, can have Machine Doubling (which most collectors will not buy that example) but Machine Doubling doesn't created a doubled die. A doubled die, creates a doubled die.
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