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Two Seated Liberty Dollars - Grade And Advice

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 Posted 08/29/2022  9:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add adcoins1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I just received the coins back from NGC, and they were given an AU-details (cleaned) grade (images below).

Is that considered a good grade, because it's AU, or a bad grade, because it's "cleaned". Any idea of the value they might hold?

Thank you
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Thanks for the update, I feel that is a fair grade on both of them. Not the most ideal outcome, but not really any other chance of a call other than details. AU is better than EF/XF grades even with the detail applied. It will likely bring a lower price when you go to sell them if that is the intention. But they are still nice looking coins never less, and desirable to collectors.
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Do some research on Heritage to see past sales of these dates in similar grades. The "cleaned" designation will definitely reduce their value.
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Is that considered a good grade, because it's AU, or a bad grade, because it's "cleaned". Any idea of the value they might hold?


It's bad because it's details - cleaned. The devices on both coins appear too bright and I agree with the cleaned designation.

The value to many people would be about half of problem-free retail.

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Go to NGC price guide here https://www.ngccoin.com/price-guide.../dollars/47/
Click on each date, for example the 1842 is here https://www.ngccoin.com/coin-explor...1-ms/?des=ms
Scroll down to the "grade summary" and then over to the "50" column. You will see past auction prices for AU50, which is where NGC also shows sales with an "AU Details" grade. At the bottom of that column you can then click "view all" for more results. There you can get thumbnail images of those coins or click directly to the auction, and see how yours compares with others as far as how bad the "details" are.

Both your dates in AU Details have sold in the $500 range in the past, but it's all relative.
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These coins look different from the original photos. The residue is gone, but so is the darker toning. Coins definitely look cleaned in the new pictures. Thank you for the update.
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Even cleaned they still have nice eye appeal.
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Even cleaned they still have nice eye appeal.


How ever, these these coins could re-tone/get a better patina over time. They would have to be out of the holders though, which would take away the guarantee and grade from NGC. A risk not many people would want to take on a hunch I suppose.

I keep a few silver dollars on a velvet pad and they usually turn to a rose goldish pink (best case scenario) or a dull brown (not so great). It does take 18 to 24 months minimum, each side. But in a way they don't look so cleaned or bright any longer. Not that I'm advocating that, it may be an option for coins that have been cleaned or look unnaturally white.
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