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why did they say Genuine on the slab?
I'm curious also as to why the slab says "Genuine." It's PCGS method to certify the the coin is authentic (not a counterfeit) but not gradable as a Details coin. It's used often for high value, commonly counterfeited coin types. You might not see the 'Genuine' designation on, say, a 1942 Lincoln Cent Details coin, but you would on a 1914-D Lincoln Details coin, or a 1916-D Liberty dime Details coin, etc. edit for spllenging Edited by nickelsearcher
06/01/2022 05:51 am
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ou can't just soak coins in Verdi-care and the verdigris magically dissolves and wipes away. right, I used a qtip and this quite a while ago when I did this but now thinking back I think I used a toothpick on the crud but it came right off. Quote:
that sucks it did make the coin look worse/cleaned. i dont think it made it worse. if you look at first photo of the conserved coin and the reverse of the slab photo I think it looks pretty good. the coin still needed conserved and I dont think it affected the grade. I wish they would have assigned a grade. I can assume though that since they assigned an XF it probably is not XF45 so XF40 would be grade and is the grade I assigned prior to sending it in. I bought this coin in the late 60's and paid $120 for it. I was only 15 so really had no idea about looking for scratches etc. I just wanted one to fill the hole. knowing what I know today, I wouldnt have bought this one. Edited by panzaldi
06/01/2022 06:51 am
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I don't see any verdigris in the "before" pictures. Appears to be simple black gunk. I would have left it on the coin especially since it's a key date. In general, conservation of key dates should be left to the pros. The risk is too high. Personally, I don't mind a little gunk on my old coins and I leave it because it demonstrates it's originality.
It appears that your pictures are inconsistent making the coin look washed-out in the second set. VC would not strip the patina on a full brown coin. The coin is clearly damaged on both sides - it should be in a details holder IMO.
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I don't think that is actual verdigris. Looks like basic grime/dirt. Verdigris is green/aqua in color. 100% agree! Quote:
You can't just soak coins in Verdi-Care and the verdigris magically dissolves and wipes away. Verdi-Care comes with toothpicks because you have to poke at it. Expensive for what it actually does, IMO. VC is the only product on the market and will dissolve, solubilize and suspend verdigris in solution. That said, verdigris is a complex mixture of copper salts, sometimes it's very hard and may require some physical action. Yes, it is expensive but so are the components in it (you get what you pay for) but a little can go a LONG way. Many of my conservations use as little as a few microliters of product. It simply takes experience with the product do determine the best path of conservation. Quote:I left some VerdiCare on a LWC for about a month and couldn't tell any difference: The stuff doesn't evaporate. This is not recommended. VC contains a water phase which WILL evaporate and concentrate the ReAcT2™ in the remaining polymeric matrix. That greatly increases the strength of the product which could potentially have some adverse effects on the surface - not recommended. Lincoln Cent Lover!VERDI-CARE™ INVENTOR https://verdi.care/
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I don't believe I've ever ruined a Lincoln Cent by a VC conservation application . Copper coins look better than before using VC even if there is little to no verdigris on the coin .  |
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That scratch would have most likely been caught either way, conserving circulated coins is far more tricky than high au/ms coins in my opinion. 100+ year old coins with no crud always tend to look more cleaned, as you tend to expect a certain level of crud around devices. Work all day without cleaning under your nails and you expect to find a little dirt around those devices.
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Pillar of the Community
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What to do now? Leave it as is or break it out and have it re-tone naturally?
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It doesn't need to re-tone. The post-treatment photos only look washed out from the lighting. It looks fine in the slab photos.
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The coin looks natural in the slab pics.
The 4th picture in the beginning post is washed out and does not appear to accurately represent the coin.
I would not be ashamed of the coin if it were mine.
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It looks properly graded.
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Posted 06/01/2022 06:46 am
