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1909 S VDB Conserved Using Verdicare - Badthad?

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i have an 09S VDB that was with quite a bit of crud in some of the reverse recesses. I had successfully cleaned up a couple Lincolns and they came out great so before I sent it to PCGS I soaked it for a couple min on both sides. I'm not sure if doing that caused the small scratches on the obverse to stand more out but the coin came back XF40 details (scratched).

i was not happy about that as I think if it was not touched it may have graded straight but I didnt want it slabbed without some conservation. the coin may still have detailed but i'll never know.
what would you have done?

I'd be interested what does badthad think about this? better to conserve it and pull the designation or take the chance and slab it as it was?

here is the original coin

1909-S-VDB-Conserved-Using-Verdicare---Badthad?

1909-S-VDB-Conserved-Using-Verdicare---Badthad?

here is the conserved coin before I sent it in using verdicare

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Looks good. Best of luck!
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Dunno, kinda looks cleaned now?
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Dunno, kinda looks cleaned now?


they didnt nail it for that. just the scratch. I think the reverse photo has a little too much light which is washing out the surfaces


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Got it, thanks!
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coinfrog...you can see how after it was conserved that the obv scratches really stand out. I'm wondering if it still would have detailed?

why did they say Genuine on the slab? is that like certifying that it is an 09S VDB? I dont remember seeing that on other details coins
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I think the verdigris distracted from the scratches before, but they were still there. My guess is the coin would have been detailed if it was sent in before using VerdiCare, but as you say, you'll never know.
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I'm curious also as to why the slab says "Genuine."
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I'm certain the grading company has lights and electronic magnification viewers and that the scratches would have been noticed and attributed in any case. You have a great example in spite of some minor wear and some circulation hits. I think your preservation was a success. Well done.
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Coin would have detailed either way due to the reverse ticks / scratches. Removing the verdigris was the correct action.
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Coin would have detailed either way with the scratches . I'd like to know how you applied the Verdi-Care , abrasive cloth ,Q-tip, etc. only because the coin does look cleaned .
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But not in the slab pics, so the lighting must be the culprit in the second pair.
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Looks good to me and a nice cent to own either way.
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I'd like to know how you applied the Verdi-Care


all I did was place the verdicare in small dish and placed the coin in it for a couple minutes. flipped it over and waited another couple minutes. I used a qtip only along the the reverse rim lightly where the crud was and I came right off. rinsed it with distilled water and let it set to dry on its own.

heres a better shot of the reverse after conservation in the slab


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I don't think that is actual verdigris. Looks like basic grime/dirt. Verdigris is green/aqua in color.
You can't just soak coins in Verdi-care and the verdigris magically dissolves and wipes away. Verdi-care comes with toothpicks because you have to poke at it. Expensive for what it actually does, IMO.

I left some VerdiCare on a LWC for about a month and couldn't tell any difference: The stuff doesn't evaporate.
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Badthad, you got some splainin' to do!

LOL all jokes aside, that sucks it did make the coin look worse/cleaned.
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