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Pillar of the Community
Italy
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So, I get it that displaying coins is nice... but do you think this one is 1) an authentic specimen 2) able to be cracked out of this absolutely ridiculous, yellowing, likely slowly destroying the coin-coin holder(if genuine, of course)... Any thoughts would be appreciated! R.     |
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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Need a better picture of the coin holder. Cannot tell with these pictures of what plastic the holder is made of.
American coin slabs are made out of Acrylic plastic, and are harmless to coins.
Has to be taken out of it's container to investigate authenticity.
The first test to do, is to check the weight.
Sestertii of Hadrian should weigh 24 +- about 2 grams
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06/09/2022 08:10 am
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 United States
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It reads the original of the coin may be seen...does that mean that this coin is a replica? John1  |
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Pillar of the Community
 Italy
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@sel... It's in a block of plastic...here's two pictures... It's from a university in the UK   |
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Pillar of the Community
Italy
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@john... I thought the same thing! The text on the holder does not say this is a replica and ... Why the die crack across Hadrian's face if it were? Or the weak reverse strike... Curious wording though...
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06/09/2022 08:11 am
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Pillar of the Community
Italy
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With no way of taking it out... I'm not sure... It's €50, so if authentic, it's a bargain ... If fake... It's fake.
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Bedrock of the Community
United Kingdom
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It reads the original of the coin may be seen...does that mean that this coin is a replica? That's how I read it. Lots of museums and historic sites in the UK sell replica Roman and Medieval coins. |
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United Kingdom
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Pillar of the Community
Italy
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I agree and believe it's a replica. Nicely done piece. I doubt a museum would sell authentic examples in the gift shop. The wording on the actual acrylic holder was misleading (I believe it said authentic) and the text on the insert is poorly written.
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Australia
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Universities and museums never, never sell genuine coins. Only replicas. But if it were genuine, an acrylic-glass tomb is the perfect preservative - the only form of "coin holder" that is genuinely 100% airtight. It should be fine for the next few million years, as safe as an insect in amber. Quote:
The wording on the actual acrylic holder was misleading (I believe it said authentic) and the text on the insert is poorly written. Seems fine to me. "Authentic" is a weasel-word commonly used by museums and other replica-sellers because it doesn't always mean "genuine", it can also mean "realistic"; an "authentic imitation" is not necessarily an oxymoron. The first paragraph is probably copy-pasted from the actual description sign used in the museum for the genuine coin (hence the reference to "this coin"), the second paragraph clearly indicates that the original coin is on display in the museum, and that this must therefore be a copy. To someone from a museum or university, it would be criminally unthinkable that a private person would own such a coin if it were genuine, therefore repeatedly stating that it's a copy would be redundant. But if one of those evil coin collectors can be tricked into thinking it was genuine, excellent; they would get exactly what they deserve. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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There is a major problem to check it's authenticity, if it has been cast into a block of acrylic plastic.
To begin with, it cannot be accurately weighed.
From the appearance, rough fields suggest that the coin may have been cast. But without checking out of its plastic tomb, the possibility that the coin is cast remains just that:- the suggested possibility that it may? have been cast.
It this item was in my ownership, I would not bother to have it checked anyway, and be happy to have the question remain unanswered.
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Pillar of the Community
Italy
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Thank you all. I think given the history of the coin and it's well published finding in Newcastle, this is a souvenir recast. If genuine, certainly €50 would be a bargain... As a novelty piece, I think I am going to pass. Thanks again everyone
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