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1988 P Cent W/Active Obverse

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Ah, my second coin of the day! I have for your consideration, A 1988 P Lincoln Cent with an active obverse. First at LIBERTY there is a Die Crack meandering from the left rim to the left top of the T and PMD (note the furrow) across the Y to the left rim. Then there is a small Die Crack from the rim to the top of the head across the left side of the E in IGWT motto. Not quite a spike head but close! There appear to be separation lines in the R, U, AND S of TRUST and 988 of the date. Yummy, and I thought the ear was a doubled ear but the extension is too small, to bad. The fields show zinc-plating bubbles on the obverse and strong cross-hatching on the reverse. Look at the pics and let me know your thoughts. Regards and have fun!
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Well the one that intersects the 'Y' looks like a scratch. The line you say is from a die crack is hard to tell from the image given, it is possible that it is - is it raised or incuse?
the Crack at the top of the head could be either a crack or a scratch - just by judging by the lighting and comparing it to the scratches that are on the head further down. It all boils down to the lighting coming in from directly overhead and not from the side to help create shadows.
Can you provide more images in close and better lighting?
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My thoughts as well.
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Looks like scratches to me.
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Scratches to me as well.
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In addition, on the reverse, maybe lots of linear plating bubbles running almost horizontal across the field of the coin.
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Ok here are two frames of LIBERTY. one shows PMD scratch across the Y furrows and all. The T shows reflection off the top of what I am calling meandering Die Crack! If it is considered a scratch, so be it! Regards all.
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Incuse mark though the devices, is damage to the coin. Most of all the other die scratches are on the die, but this one is on the coin.
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Most will argue that this is raised, but there is a trench in the center of the mark. The metal when moved, has to go somewhere. Thus the raised areas on the outside edges of the trench. Post Strike Damage. (Die cracks are raised on the centers as there was a void on the die where the crack is, thus that area will be raised on a crack.
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Note a die crack will not be a straight line. Note on the image above to note this.
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COOP I will concede this 1988 P has a ton of scratches on the surface so the one coming from the T is a scratch and not a crack so I stand corrected. My bad for allowing my study of a coin surface to run away with my imangination! Regards.
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Even if it is a small crack and not a scratch, it wouldn't be enough for a premium, sorry.
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@allcoinsaregood: Don't worry about it we all get it incorrect at times. Sometimes it comes down to how the lighting is set up to create the shadows to help diagnose a feature on a coin.
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