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1858 Flying Eagle. Think This Looks Promising

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Is that a 7 I see?
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 Posted 06/30/2022  6:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Are you asking about the 1858/7 cent? Much sharper close-ups needed.



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 Posted 06/30/2022  6:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jimbucks to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Badly corroded. Can't tell if the corrosion is suggesting an overdate or there is an overdate.
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 Posted 06/30/2022  7:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KerryKz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here's a closer image
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 Posted 06/30/2022  7:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Doesn't help. Much sharper image needed of the entire date and field up to the eagle.
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 Posted 06/30/2022  8:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add indian_hoarder to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Appears to be the small letter variety, which would make it impossible to be the overdate.
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I believe what you are seeing is just severe corrosion buildup. There would be no way to identify if this is an overdate in this condition. Additionally, where the 7 would be on a genuine overdate example is actually higher up than the corrosion buildup on your coin. The underlying 7 on a genuine overdate does not protrude into the side of the 8 like your coin does, another feature that is inconsistent with your example.

Take a look at my example to compare:

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(Blue line represents where the overdate would be on your coin and the red represents the overdate on my example. It's not a match)

Did you list this coin on ebay?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/3140564613...s&media=COPY

Hope this helps!

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06/30/2022 8:58 pm
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The markers for this are just above the date to the right and in the field well above the date near the middle. Absolutely precise images will be needed to confirm this. In any event, the condition of this coin suggests a nominal value even if genuine.
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Coinhunter, you're going to have to help me here, but I'm just not see an over date on the one you just put up.
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 Posted 06/30/2022  9:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KerryKz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Indian hoarder.. I don't know how I missed that. You are 100% coerect
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 Posted 06/30/2022  9:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinHunter27 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No problem Dearborn. I'll link my original post where I went over markers and such here:

http://goccf.com/t/397316

I think one of the reasons this overdate doesn't command more of a premium than it already does it because it is so difficult to see. The only evidence left behind is the top right wing of the 7 and in lower grades it can be extra tough to see, and can sometimes disappear. Here's a PCGS example in MS EDS:

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Hope this clears it up!

-CH27
Collector of U.S. Coins, Varieties, and Colonial Coinage
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06/30/2022 9:39 pm
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