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1870-CC Seated Liberty Dollar. You Vs PCGS!

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New acquisition that I picked up for an insanely low price, relative to the coin at least.


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Well, you don't see this every day! I'll say AU-50, possibly 53.
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au55. congrats!
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wow nice I will say AU-53
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I'll go with AU50. Nice looking coin, congrats!
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A rarity to own, congrats! First year of CC is a big one.

This one has little to no luster remaining, and a cleaning with visible hairlines. I will say AU-53 Details or AU-50 straight. Toss-up whether this has a straight grade or details.
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Maybe its just the pics but the surfaces look ugly.
Probably some prooflike reflectivity visible in the hand.
AU50.
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AU Details Cleaned - The coin does not belong in a straight holder as all the remaining luster has been cleaned off the example.
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AU-53 but not sure they gave it a straight grade. Couple marks that look odd, one on the shield and one on the eagle's neck. They look like punch marks?
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AU-53 but not sure they gave it a straight grade. Couple marks that look odd, one on the shield and one on the eagle's neck. They look like punch marks?


Looks like a possible patched hole. Almost looks perfectly aligned on both sides.

Edit: fixing grammer lol
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Couple marks that look odd, one on the shield and one on the eagle's neck. They look like punch marks?


good catch IGE. I tend to agree. when you see a consistent mark like this in the exact position on both sides theres a good chance something happened here and if you look close at the reverse mark its much brighter than the rest of the coin.

i think the coin may have been repaired

AU details ( PMD). still a nice coin but maybe the reason you got it for an insanely low price
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I am confident the coin has not been holed, rather just incidental damage. An overlay image shows the two areas of damage do not correspond to each other very closely at all. I took some close ups of the areas in question to help discern whether these cross the "damage" threshold.


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With the close upset I agree not holed, the damage does look close on each side bit doesn't match. It does look like more modern damage
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AU-53, but looks to have a old cleaning.
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new photos put a "hole" in our theory, now the question is since its PMD and in a prominent location will the coin grade straight. does look like an old cleaning but it looks acceptable and would not details the coin

AU53 and I'm hoping she grades straight.
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I'm at AU-50.
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