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1963 And 1964 Roosevelt Dime Proof Varieties.

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I recently bought 150 1964 proofs and 50 1963 proofs, individually cello wrapped. I know there are several DDO's and DDR's listed for these years but wondered if I should be looking for anything beyond that. Just not that familiar with dimes, in general. Thanks for any help.
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Looking for errors on dimes is something I don't do all that often - the things are just too small for my old eyes, I need a scope just to see the date. But a good start would be VV - it is by far the best user friendly site to look through (IMO).
http://varietyvista.com/07%20Roosev...Listings.htm
then maybe Wexler's site.
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As mentioned, check the sites for DDO / DDR listings first. Leave them in the cello, unless you find a doubled die. Thus can still sell the normal ones in the cellos without getting fingerprints on them that way.
http://varietyvista.com/07%20Roosev...Listings.htm
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Thanks, Dearborn and coop! Yeah, I did a little digging around the last few days and it looked like the only thing, variety wise were doubled dies, just didn't know if these proof dates offered anything else. It also looks like they would have to be extremely high grade, (PR67-PR69) or DCAM, to be worth anything substantial. Thank you guys for your input.

coop, I thought the same about leaving them in the cello, if they just looked to be typical proofs, thanks for the thought.
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The high grades are a shot in the dark. But look for the Full cameos on them. Those have a premium.
DCAM
https://www.PCGS.com/coinfacts/coin...images/95238
Cameos:
https://www.PCGS.com/coinfacts/coin...images/85238

If they have no Cameo, then they are normal proof dimes. Back then the earlier die strikes show the cameo's and DCAMs. They didn't refresh the cameos. Thus they have a higher premium. Today they are refreshed. Thus the low price for even PR-70 Cameos.
https://www.PCGS.com/cert/39150349
2020-S dime PR-70 DCAM $24. Cost more than that to get it graded. But check the prices on the 1963 and 1964 DCAM and Cameos. (In order for a coin to be a cameo, it has to show on both sides of the coin. If it shows on just one side, it is not a cameo. Some try selling them as light cameos but they are just normal coins. Has to have the cameo showing on both sides of the coin. (Just a few more thoughts on the subject)
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Thanks, coop! I'll post any out of the ordinary finds.
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I'll stand by:
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They just got here, so the fun begins!
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@Makecents: The proof for those years was in sets in cello. Why someone will separate? Could happened.

When I see you cello, me I hope for you to be the circulation strikes which are more valuable then the proof. If all four sides show the sealing machine, mean it is normal strike and hope you find 67 or better. Will pay all.

Second, look at 64 reverse design because was also an transitory to the 1965 design.
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I just fired up my popcorn machine - I'm waiting on your results -
Slowly working my way through them, Dearborn. Between the Roosevelt being a little alien to me and looking through the cello, I've been taking my time. I've made my first pass through the 150 64's and may have found a couple of lesser doubled dies, I have not went back to them yet. I also set aside a handful of nicer proofs that may be close to cameo but not sure yet, need to go back to those also. Whoever cut these sets up, more than likely, looked for such a thing, maybe not double dies but cameos and deep cameos.

I'll probably do my first pass through the 63's, before I go back to the others though, see if I can luck up on any FS dies. No such luck yet though.
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@Makecents: The proof for those years was in sets in cello. Why someone will separate? Could happened.

When I see you cello, me I hope for you to be the circulation strikes which are more valuable then the proof. If all four sides show the sealing machine, mean it is normal strike and hope you find 67 or better. Will pay all.

Second, look at 64 reverse design because was also an transitory to the 1965 design.
I think this was and is a fairly common practice, silviosi, to separate these sets and sell them off individually and yes, these are all proofs, not business strikes.
I did some research, before I started searching, so I would know what to look for but saw no transitional variety for the 64's, maybe something I did not see though, that's why I reached out to you folks. After I saw your post, I went back and looked again at reverse changes and the only thing I saw that may be different, was the SMS. Is that what you are referring too, a proof obverse with an SMS reverse? The design did not look to change until 68-69?
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They usually break a Proof set if they find one coin that is a "variety" or a "high grade" or a "Cameo or DCAM" coin. I like buying the cellos. Sometimes you find a doubled die that was over looked. (I used to buy the cents and nickels) The older ones sometimes have interesting toning on them on the nickels. Found a strange looking cent that turned colors in the cello:
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Good luck MAKE you have homework to do. Do not forgot to look for an transitional 1964 struck on clad. This will make your day and holydays.
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Good luck MAKE you have homework to do. Do not forgot to look for an transitional 1964 struck on clad. This will make your day and holydays.
Ahhh, got ya. Where I'm not too familiar with dimes, I was not aware of this. Similar to the 1943 copper cent and 1944 steelie. I did not see anything that would have given me that notion but will check all the edges now, just to be sure. Thank you, sir.
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Be welcome, the last one I saw was 3k sold.
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