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1994 Penny With DDO And DDR Possibly Struck On A 1990 Penny?

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What is going on here? Is this double die obverse and reverse?

It almost looks like a restrike, but a1994 over a 1990. I took it from several angles and different lighting just to make sure I was not seeing shadows. I see what looks like a 0 under the 4, plus on the reverse, if you look at all the letters they are slightly off, but the M is way off, which could be the difference in a Wide AM 1990 coin and a Close AM 1994. They are all off, but the M is significantly off. Any explanation? The whole building and even the FG are off. The FG is way off along with the M and the 0 which makes me think it may have been struck on an existing 1990 penny?

I am new to coin collecting, so this is intriguing, and a learning curve I'm sure. What could explain these issues and what would a value be?

I apologize for the lack of better photos, but this was the best I could get once reducing them down to 300K.

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I think your imagination is running wild. You are looking for things that aren't there.
What you have is a ordinary worn 1994 cent worth 1 cent.
All 1994 Philadelphia cents are CAM. The FM is in the right position and
I don't see any sign of DDO or DDR.
What you think is a 0 under the 4 is probably a zinc bubble.
Sorry but it is just a spender
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JimmyD, I may be wrong on the 0 for sure, but there is definitely double lettering on the rear. I may not be using the right terms because I am new to this, and it could be a zinc bubble on the front and I may be seeing too much on the 0 and the pics don't depict it well either, but there is for sure double lettering on the back. Look closer America on the back - look at the C and A on the image with no purple marks. It's hard to get it to show up, but everything is stamped on there twice, even the FG. I wish the photos were better so you didn't think I was crazy, LOL. But I swear, no questions about the back, I just don't know what caused it.
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Yeah, this is the term we call zinc rot, where the thin copper plating falls away exposing the zinc core, and happens more frequently about the raised portions of these Lincoln cents (all post 1982) making it appear doubled when in fact it is not doubling. Machine Doubling can also be evident as that is always steplike in nature and not true doubling. Paridolia is a fancy term for seeing things not really there.

There already is a wealth of information in the search bar to the top of the page to help.

Varietyvista.com and Lincolncentresourse among other websites are great for actually seeing the legitimate errors/varieties out there.
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to the CCF and First thing about DDRs and DDOs, if you think you have both on one coin, 99.9% of the time you don't. That combination is very rare. It's either MD, lighting, DDD or something else.
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Just a plating bubble next to the 4.



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This could have a touch of DDD as well - most of the design elements are 'skewed' towards the rim all the way around.
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One ordinary looking cent.
Please refrain from marking up your coin photos, just let us decide what's going on, and marks just get in the way.

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You are looking too hard to find something that is not there. If it were a doubled die, it would stand out. But looking at the edges of devices will only find you the Machine Doubling and die wear. If something is not raised, it was not on the die, because the die has incuse devices creating raised devices on the coin. If you want to find answers faster, you might try this link of now 17 pages of information of what you can see on coins, what it is and if it is collectable. Answers to questions you've not even thought of yet. Just click on this link CoopHome and you will see what to look for and what to just spend. Better to know what to look for than just to guess. enjoy. Hundreds of posts on subjects that you may have wondered about, with thousands of images.
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I would still keep it as it is interesting
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