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1841 Seated Liberty Dollar PCGS Vs. You

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It is difficult to tell with this coin--there is some nice album toning, but it is often too dark to see unless the light hits it correctly, which is tough to photograph from outside of the slab. No TrueView pictures this time, though...



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I agree: tough to photograph with coin in slab.
That also makes it harder to grade accurately, with images of the coin combining with faint reflected images of the the coin, from both the inside and outside surfaces of the slab.
Fortunately, you have avoided most of the flare of the light source.
I assume there is no electrostatically attracted dust, and the slab surfaces are otherwise pristine.

The fields appear to be a bit scuffed, but no wear on the high points.
Lib's boobs appear to be a bit flattened, but that is most probably due to a light strike, same with her left forearm,
MS-61.

PCGS had the advantage of examining the coin in the raw, under an ideal light source. We don't, and only get to examine screen images.

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 Posted 07/22/2022  08:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'll say MS-62, just a stab.
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 Posted 07/22/2022  08:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wrekkdd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Based off photo grade I'd say ms 62 sounds right. I was about to call it Proof then saw there was a mintage of 15 for Proof 1841 dollars.
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I'm thinking this one looks better in hand than in these photos.

AU58 or MS63. I'm going with AU58 even though I'm hard pressed to find any signs of wear on the reverse using the photo
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Since you don't mind details coins (1873)
I'm gonna say UNC Details questionable color?
I think she's beautiful and I agree...it's the least of the details designations.
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I really couldn't get the album toning around the rims, especially on the reverse. It is straight graded, though :).
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I will say MS63. Very Nice coin.
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Looks like breast wear to me so I will say 58 though I'm not good with the series but lovely coin I say.
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Just some minor mishandling, MS-61.
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The range of grade opinions is pretty much what could be expected, given the fact that it is photographed inside the slab and examined by us on screen.
Nevertheless, "You vs the TPG" it is still a valuable grade training exercise.
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Do I see some cameo effect, or is that just the lighting conditions?
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I think it looks a little bit proof-like. There's a minor cameo on this coin. This is part of why I like it, and chose this one for my upgrade. PCGS does NOT mention it on the slab, though.
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