Question For The Morgan Dollar VAM Guys ! 1921-S (Pics Added)

Rick, I had a look for the larger and more obvious VAM's without success, but I'm not exactly the master yet.

Have a look at http://www.ashmore.com/vamupdate/index.htm. The VAM Update page has a listing of all VAMs identified since the last edition of the Comprehensive Encyclopedia, and the images page has photos of most (it's a large page, and takes a long time to load). Leroy Van Allen is publishing updates which he will send you for a nominal sum - look at http://www.ashmore.com/vamupdate/va...atecosts.htm for more information.

Many of the 1921-S VAMs involve doubling, which is tough for me to pick from the photos. I'd advise that you check out the Ashmore pages, and get out your loupe.

If you, like me, end up obsessed with Morgan VAMs, you have only Leroy Van Allen to thank.

here is a few of the cracks in my 1921-S

You're getting an idea now why I've limited my collecting to 1921's. There's just too much to keep track of, otherwise. I'm still studying on your coin, Metalman, as I get the time.

Bryan, can you continue the photo study down the leaf clusters below the D in your coin? It seems like a candidate for VAM 1R, although I haven't found a pic of that VAM yet.

Now if you REALLY want to see some cool die cracks and breaks, you need to look for 1921 Ds.

There's a whole collecible series of them and many are rare and some are ultra-rare!!

The beauty is you can still cherry pick them on ebay and at your local coin shop (but it's getting harder all the time).

My avitar is a 1921D VAM1i and is a R-7 coin (out of R-8 scale) meaning it is Extremely Rare having only a few tens of estimated population.

SuperDave has one that puts mine to shame.

An R6 coin is Very Rare with few hundred estimated population (The more severe the die break the less likely the dies survived much longer after minting them.)

This one pictured below is the rarest of all the 1921Ds, the VAM1X.

There is only one known to exist in this Late Die State (LDS) and only one Early Die State coin found so far and is a challenge to look for.

Note: This is not my coin or photo, I borrowed it from Rob Joyce Rare Coins websites linked below. Go check them out.

Rob Joyce also sells a book illustrating them with photos text and line drawings showing the different die pattern cracks and breaks.

I have the book and it has proved to be invaluable searching the images on ebay with the comparison drawings.

http://www.rjrc.com/vams/1921_d_vams.htm
http://www.robjoyce.com/vams/1921_D_vams.htm

OOps!!! I unwillingly lied, I do have a 1921-D but its just a raw coin I got before I started the slabed coin collection. Its in the pile of coins I gave my daughter to play with and look at with her 10x loupe. I found another 1921-P that has cracks in alot of places I will take a picture of to let you see since ya'll like 1921's so much heck maybe its something unusual I dont know her collection has like 6 1921's that I thought were just worthless because they were 1921's before I knew anything about VAM's and I never looked at them again after I put them in her collection

Bryan1315, are these photos of a 1921P or 1921D?