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Wild Looking 2019 American Memorial Strike Through Error, No Mint Mark

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 Posted 07/27/2022  8:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silviosi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@Nick: K7 and K2 I do not understand. Me I work military's and orientation of the Nord. (do no change nothing in fact). Nick here I do not push out any hypothesis. Yours's could be correct. But why at 11 o'clock the rim and the coin show like was hit or press or punch?
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 Posted 07/27/2022  10:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nick10 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
K7 and K2 are clock hours, on a compass it would be SW to NE

this coin has two distinct and very different patterns, the one I'm mentioning that appears to be from the die, plus the more obvious SE to NW one that matches the reeding pattern

I'm curious if most of the edge has normal reeding, if it does not, that could be a hint about what happened to this interesting coin
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 Posted 07/27/2022  10:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mikediamond to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I wrote about this Indiana quarter years ago in Coin World and Errorscope.
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 Posted 07/27/2022  10:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silviosi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Mike, COOP and Nick. I will go to find the article of Mike and keep in mind, also very nice explanation from you COOP and Nick. With the article and your explanations I hope I will be able to resolve the puzzle. With all those explanations I thing I will be able to find where in the production line could happened. Thanks to anyone who has the patience with me, and answer. Silvio
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 Posted 07/27/2022  11:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nick10 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Does the collar reeding extend to the edge of the collar? If this coin was forcibly pushed across even a slightly raised collar, or a loose/broken collar, I can imagine the reeding lines leaving the SE to NW impression we see.
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 Posted 07/28/2022  08:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Petespockets55 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
For those that are interested, I took OP's full obverse images and added arrows showing some of the raised areas of metal on the coin.

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Hello Mike, Thank you for your interest in the coin, Sent you a PM with my info. Would love to send you the coin to inspect. Looking forward to hearing from you.
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 Posted 08/03/2022  7:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mikediamond to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've got the coin in hand and, so far, it all looks like post-strike damage. The grooves that run NW-SE on the obverse do line up with the reeding. At this point, I can only indulge in rank speculation about what happened. Nevertheless, that's good enough for a treatment in Coin World. Since the damage on the obverse is oriented in three directions, and since the reverse is also heavily abraded, I suspect the damage occurred outside the Mint. Perhaps someone pressed a material into the edge that hardened afterward. The ridges generated on that material were then dragged across the surface.
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Thanks Mike. Always nice to know for sure. Sometimes it takes the coin in hand to figure out was really happened. Always nice to show other what you see, so I would make an article to show how to tell the differences. Thanks again.
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Perhaps the edge of the coin was pressed into a resin impregnated with diamond dust. When the resin hardened, the ridges could have been used to carve out the grooves on the obverse. This is rank speculation, of course, but I can't see the collar generating this kind of damage.
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interesting, what about the SW-NE lines that appear raised above the surface, are those just metal pushed up from an adajcent area of the coin?
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There are no raised lines. These are simply areas that were less abraded than the grooves that separate them.
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Mike, when you say grooves, it sounds like you're talking about the SE to NW lines. Instead I'm talking about what appear to be raised lines running SW to NE.
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 Posted 08/04/2022  07:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mikediamond to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I assume you're referring to the fine lines. These are hairline scratches.
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Thank You, Mr. Diamond for all of your efforts on this one. I look forward to the Coin World writeup and to see what conclusions you may reach.

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