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Wild Looking 2019 American Memorial Strike Through Error, No Mint Mark

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Today I just cracked me second box of quarters searching for W's and errors. Me first roll me pulled this wild looking strike through error. Its on a 2019 American Memorial Obverse. Me believe this happened at the mint. Not sure what debris caused this marking. Could feeder fingers cause this? Should it get graded? Also no visible mint mark, I was hoping it was a W. One will never know.

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Damage coin.
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@arb, my initial thought is that this coin is damaged. I'm struggling to think how it could have been minted like this.
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PMD of some kind.
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I don't know, the spacing of the lines is the exact as the reeding of the edge. Could the collar have broken on a previous coin then scraped across the die heavily gouging it before the die was used to I also see more Reed Marks at K9 on top of the rim.
It is at the same angle of the feeder fingers would push out the coin - could the finger pushed the broken collar across the die helping to make the gouges?
This is very interesting and I think that Mike Diamond might like to see this one. (IMO anyway)
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I will put here the way the Mint produce the coins with the new presses to understand the new bi-ball presses.

https://www.usmint.gov/learn/produc...n-production
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This is clearly post-strike damage, but Dearborn's observation about the spacing of the grooves matching the spacing of the reeding leaves open the possibility that this damaged occurred in the press immediately after the strike. If so, it's a type of damage I haven't seen before and have difficulty envisioning. I would certainly like to examine this coin personally and perhaps write it up for Coin World. If arby96 would like to pursue this, he can PM me.
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Thanks Mike.
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Thanks Mike for the quick response.

@arby - I would highly recommend sending your quarter to Mike for him to be studied and then possibly published. (you will get it back) I was lucky enough the have one of my coins published in Coin World as well.

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I have a few of my finds in Coin World
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If it was PMD, why is the ITED ST along with the other letters not struck up fully? I think the scratches going from 8:00 to 2:00 are PMD.
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I must acknowledge that there have been some coins that looked like post-strike damage in photos but turned out to be pre-strike damage. Here is one example:
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Interesting coin.

There appear to be raised "bumps" on the rim above UNITED (K9-10) which don't correspond to PSD.
(Unless my perception of the image is wrong again.)

Looking forward to Mike's in-hand analysis. Hopefully, Arby96 will send it to him.
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@MikeDiamond: very interesting, but I see the Rim been deteriorate by those marks, and on the chain of the production I do not see where could be happened. It is OK for me if it is pre or post strike damage. Where do you think could happened on the pre-strike? I will appreciete if you took the time to read and give your opinion. Thanks silviosi als Dr. S. Simion
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if I'm reading the shadows correctly, the scrape from K7 to K2 appears to be raised on Washington's cheek, suggesting the scrape was on the die
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On Mike's Coin:
If it were on the die, the scratches would not be equal on the whole coin. The devices are incuse into the die and would not make a connecting line across the coin the same. Also there is a lot of evidence of Grease Fill on the many of the devices. Just seems odd to see it on all of the coin, so that tells me it is a coin issue, rather than a die issue. If it were a die issue, there would be more examples of this same thing.
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