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  Found an 1899 Indian Head penny that is extra thick. I have included an image comparing the thickness of the penny to 3 other coins (1857 Flying Eagle, 1863 Indian Head, 1899 (error?) Indian Head, and a standard thickness 1899 Indian Head from left to right. You'll see this 1899 coin matches the thickness of the Flying Eagle and the 1859 - 1864 Indian heads but is much thicker than 1864 - 1909 Indian Heads. In the other image I included you can see it's the rim only that adds the extra thickness and not the entire coin. Curious if anyone has seen this before as I can't find anything about it on google.
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 Probably going to need close up pics and maybe a weight. John1  |
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to the Community! |
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Welcome...what's the weight?
KK
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can we have a close up of the coin in question, plus the weight of it?
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  I weighed the coins out: 1863: 4.49 g 1899 (error?): 3.02 g 1899 (no error): 2.85 g I also included 2 images showing the thickness on a microscope. One image compares the thickness of the error coin (1.89 mm) with the thickness of a regular 1899 Indian head (1.15 mm). The other image depicts the thickness of an 1863 Indian head (1.87 mm). I should emphasize it is only the EDGE / lip of the potential error coin that is thicker / raised. The rest of the coin (the face) is the same thickness as a regular Indian head coin. Essentially, the increased weight of the potential error coin is due to the additional mass added by the thick outer lip (I think). Also, the thickness of the potential error coin matches that of the 1863 penny which is weird. Thoughts? |
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I am confused, you are saying the 1899 and 1863 cents are both errors? The 1863 should have a larger thickness and different metal composition from the 1899. We still don't have obverse and reverse photos of the coin in question. Please add those so we can know exactly what you're taking about. Quote:
I should emphasize it is only the EDGE / lip of the potential error coin that is thicker / raised. It sounds like a Rim Fin, although I haven't seen many Indian cents with large rim fins. Need pics... Suffering from bust half fever. Want to learn how to attribute early half dollars by die variety? Click Here: http://goccf.com/t/434955Shoot me a PM if you are looking to sell bust halves. |
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I apologize for the confusion. I'm using the 1863 coin as a thickness reference only. I do not believe there is any defect with the 1863. What I am saying is the 1899 coin is as thick as the 1863 penny along the edges only, that's the potential defect. I have included 3 additional images. The first is at an angle where I believe you can more easily see the "lip" / thick edge of the 1899 coin. The other two images are of the face and reverse.    Thoughts? |
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to the CCF. This coin has been spooned. |
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Yes, the coin was spooned. Someone probably hit the edge of the coin with a hammer many times until it started to mushroom over.
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Definitely the rim was "spooned"...a process used to make coin rings before mechanical methods were employed (hydraulic presses)...would have been a very small ring (child's?).
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