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Ancient Coins - Where To Start?

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I purchased a lot of German and French silver coins and a few ancient coins came along for the ride, I know nothing about ancient coins so where do I go to start identifying them? Is there a website or book you would recommend? In addition I think some may be repro since they are in excellent condition (lower left in the photos). Thanks in advance for any advice.


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 Posted 07/28/2022  7:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kamnaskires to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
These should all be easily identifiable. May I ask how much you paid for the lot? The Celtic - Queen Boudicca of the Iceni - typically go for good money.
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I started into Roman coins a very long time ago, even before computers. I was was curious and so read a few specialist books on the subject, from a large public library. I then bought my first Roman coin.

All of that info is now on-line, but even now I would not be keen on reading a book length PDF file on screen, buy I would still rather pick up a good book on the subject, sit in an easy chair and read it, sipping many cups of coffee along the the way.

Now that you already have some coins and on-line info is available,
it would be best to make VCOINS your first place for identification of the coins pictured.

THEN read a good general book on the subject of Roman coins. You may have to use the inter library reference and transfer system to get in the best book for your needs.
All those years ago, the first library book I read was Roman Coins, by Harold Mattingly. He was a past curator of ancient coins in the British Museum

Become familiar with fakes and build skill in knowing how to identify them. Newbie collectors of ancient coins need to do this, before even considering to buy via ebay.
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Most of these coins are Roman, and most of those Roman coins are "Late Roman bronzes", dating from within 50 years after the coinage reform of Diocletian in AD 298. Late Roman bronzes are probably the most common "ancient coin" you're likely to encounter, especially in Europe. The Romans churned out ridiculous amounts of these coins in an effort to prop up their failing economy.

The only two that are not "Late Roman" is the one in middle row far right, looks like a dupondius of Marcus Aurelius, sometime around AD 140. And the Celtic one, bottom row, second from right, with the stylized horse on it. I don't know my Celtic coins well enough to ID them by sight, but if BobL says it's Boudicca of the Iceni, you can believe it, and it's certainly a valuable coin, due to Boudicca's prominence in British history as "the most successful Anglo-Celtic rebellion against Roman rule".

They all look genuine to me; at least, nothing there shouts "I'm a fake!". They also look better-than-average condition; they are, as BobL said, all identifiable as to emperor, type and mintmark.

Most of the Late Romans appear to be from the Siscia mint. Siscia is in modern-day Croatia, and coins from Siscia tend to be very common these days, ever since the fall of Communism and the resultant Yugoslav Wars.
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The DECENTIUS in the lower left corner is a beauty. He was the brother of the usurper, MAGNENTIUS (350-353AD). (If genuine, it also had good value.)
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Thanks for all the replies. To answer Bob L's question I paid $300 for the lot which I thought was a good price for the French and German coins. The ancient coins were just a bonus to me. It appears that I got a good deal. I will spend some time today at the vcoins site to try and identify all of these.

Thanks again.
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You did very well indeed!
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I would also decipher the inscriptions, for those that have them. That will make it easier to check Vcoins.
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The websites you need are Ocre https://numismatics.org/ocre/identify and Wildwinds https://www.wildwinds.com/coins/ric/i.html

That does indeed look like an Iceni coin. From the photo it doesn't look in top condition, which might explain why someone would sell it in a lot. Note that although it is often called a Boudicca coin, the association is tenuous (although put forward by Van Arsdell). Even so, the association adds value https://www.vanarsdellcelticcoinage...30_ccb3.html

I agree the Decentius is beautiful https://numismatics.org/ocre/id/ric.8.lug.139

The radiate next to it is Constantius Chlorus https://numismatics.org/ocre/id/ric.6.cyz.18a

Top left seems to be Licinius II with Jupiter, like this https://numismatics.org/ocre/id/ric.7.ar.128 It's not hugely common.

The Marcus Aurelius seems to be this PIETAS As https://numismatics.org/ocre/id/ric.3.ant.1240A_as

Second middle left is Maximian II https://numismatics.org/ocre/id/ric.6.anch.167b
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Nice pick-up.

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