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Zohar444 Pillar of the Community United States 1429 Posts	Posted 02/17/2009 9:34 pm Two Taler from my collections. The first, a classic Ferdinand Taler with its beautiful design. This coin has a beautiful patina, excellent detail and strike, yet was graded AU-55 by NGC, undergraded in my opinion. The second, a lusterous Salzburg Taler with with clear details (look at the cross on his chest as well as reverse) has two spots which take away from the overall eye appeal. The price drove the second purchase, the eye appeal led to the first. Archduke Ferdinand (1564-95) Taler NGC AU-55 1775 Salzburg Hieronymus (1772-1803) Taler NGC MS-62 Report this Post to the Staff

Archraz Pillar of the Community United States 3499 Posts	Posted 02/17/2009 9:41 pm Great Talers! Is the first taler the same as your avatar? If not, is this one of a couple in your collection? Report this Post to the Staff
Zohar444 Pillar of the Community United States 1429 Posts	Posted 02/17/2009 9:50 pm Great catch Archraz - it is a new one, a "friend" of the masterpiece, attached I use as an Avatar. I could not resist getting a second piece of the type given the quality. I consulted with wcg (Brent) who agreed that the temptation in getting a nice piece (hard to find) at a good price, in spite of being of the same type/date, is tough to fight off. Report this Post to the Staff
DVCollector Bedrock of the Community United States 10045 Posts	Posted 02/17/2009 9:56 pm Nice coins and amazing details! Their level of technical skill at die making during this period is very impressive. This is after all the 16th century, where many other European countries had (dare I say) much cruder struck coins. Report this Post to the Staff
jfransch Pillar of the Community United States 1801 Posts	Posted 02/17/2009 10:02 pm Once again you amaze me with the beautiful coins you post. What book would you recommend for a novice wanting to learn about taler collecting? (These are almost as fascinating as 8 reales ... LOL) Report this Post to the Staff
Zohar444 Pillar of the Community United States 1429 Posts	Posted 02/17/2009 10:09 pm General info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thaler John Davenport catalogued the broad spectrum of European crowns by period in a series of books. Taler reference numbers therefore go by DAV (for DAVENPORT). http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/Boo...1700&x=0&y=0 http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/Boo...1600&x=0&y=0 Other KM book - http://www.amazon.com/Standard-Cata...p/0873412117. See if you can get these cheaper on ebay or other book sites. http://cgi.ebay.com/Standard-Price-...68_W0QQitemZ 330294078812QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAntiquarian_Collectible In addition, https://www.coinarchives.com gives a breadth of samples. No other Taler focused book that I know of. Edited by Zohar444 02/18/2009 11:43 pm Report this Post to the Staff
echizento Moderator United States 23731 Posts	Posted 02/17/2009 10:33 pm As always beautiful coins. I agree #1 was a bit under graded they are all very eye appealing. Report this Post to the Staff
wcg Valued Member United States 217 Posts	Posted 02/18/2009 7:23 pm Per Zohar's note on a lack of self control.....I bought the original 1715 taler with the original intent of selling it if (and only if) I found a better example. Well, I was surprised when a better example presented itself a short year later and now I just cant let the first one go. Original: Upgrade: Report this Post to the Staff
manila galleon trade Pillar of the Community Spain 1361 Posts	Posted 02/18/2009 7:40 pm wcg, I like the original (First) one than your upgrade. Report this Post to the Staff
Mr Finger Valued Member United States 405 Posts	Posted 02/18/2009 7:52 pm Very nice medal like coins Report this Post to the Staff
Zohar444 Pillar of the Community United States 1429 Posts	Posted 02/18/2009 8:07 pm Nothing beats these designs. Brent please keep sharing these gems making us Report this Post to the Staff
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