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The original post mentioned my process, period. Please read it closely.
I never asked for an opinion about the condition of the coin, and intentionally did not ask a question, in my original post. Very few who responded to the OP understood this, and some still do not. Unfortunately, there are too many here whose reaction is common and consistent with faux experience and faux expertise.
I did circle several issues that interested me during my process of evaluating this coin. The flurry of opinions and conclusions, from individuals about the coin surprised since I didn't ask a question and wasn't looking for anything other than a comment my process. While I appreciate guidance from real expertise, the flurry of cynicism and opinion, about my coin, while ignoring my process still tickles me. :)
As a consequence, and in a sense of accountability and responsibility, I caution those who come here for looking for "expert opinion" to do their own research.
Thank you for looking :)
"We are all flawed, some MD and some PMD." NYI Edited by NY Islander
08/22/2022 7:19 pm
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@ny, thx for providing an update on this coin. It is always valuable for us to get a second opinion, even if it disagrees with ours. You will notice that I have merged this update thread with the original one though—best practice is to start only one thread per coin. Thx.
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Ok, I won't comment about the coin. I just looked at it and will move on. Once a coin photo is uploaded to this forum, it's obvious people will want to express an opinion whether you specifically asked questions or wanted opinions or not. You did state you had questions about the coin, had spent hours about it. You implied you were looking for answers. CCF members do try to help fellow collectors. Some of us are new collectors with little knowledge, others have decades of learning. Not "faux" at all IMO. If you only prefer "experts" to respond then maybe you should only message them, send them the pics.
Edited by livingwater
08/22/2022 10:09 pm
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I am only calling out those who provided an unsolicited, and ultimately, a wrong opinion about the coin. Flippant and unsolicited responses by faux experts need to be called out and they need to be accountable for bogus opinions.
It is apparent why none of those who made comments have responded to this thread to defend their opinions. They know who they are, and if you read the thread, you know who they are. IMHO their opinions hold little value.
I remain a novice, but passionate amateur coin collector. I will continue to post ignorant questions and solicit expert opinions. However, since Coin Community does not support "Audience Edit" I ask those who would respond for the sake of padding their post #'s to hesitate before you respond to my queries.
Thank you for your consideration.
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I read every post. Nothing wrong with them IMO. Sorry I don't understand why you are offended. Just ignore comments you think are stupid. If comments are cruel, let the moderator know so they can be deleted.
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08/22/2022 11:55 pm
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As David Lisot would ask..
What kind of value?
You realize when you know how to think, it empowers you far beyond those who know only what to think.
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I'm not offended. I value my time.
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Congrats on getting this one figured out. Curiosity and knowledge are great things. Now you have more of both. (It sounds like we "unsolicited" members  of the original thread may have helped you in your quest after all by giving you the drive to prove us wrong. LOL) Having the coin in hand puts you at a distinct advantage. There's nothing wrong with going back to the original thread to question any replies, add images, or answer questions. (BTW- Are you as open to receiving blunt replies as you are in administering them? In the future please mention the members you would like to receive replies from so we will know which members you are soliciting.) ps. I take it all back. As I'm reviewing your original thread I see you posed no questions so you must have already known the particulars about this variety. You didn't mention the variety in the title or anywhere in the body of the thread which is what threw me off. I'll refrain from adding insight and just congratulate you on an excellent find from now on if I see no question marks. pss. You sound a little angry about this one and so you know, I'm just being sarcastic and authentic in part of my reply. I really do hope you post more finds. Be sure to add clear closeups of the areas in question, if there is a question. Words of encouragement are one of the major food groups.
We need to consume them regularly to thrive and grow.
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Alright, you are not offended. My bad. It took you time to respond to some of the comments. There was no harm intended by those who commented. That is a cool cent.
Edited by livingwater
08/23/2022 10:04 am
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I too read many of the comments here, not all. I'm seriously expanding my ability to recognize errors, varieties and one offs. This in a great degree to to the incredible wealth of knowledge of many of the expert posters here. I acknowledge there is some frustration and this thread has been cathartic and allowed me to vent.
Think I made my point and I'm done beating my dead horse.
Thanks for listening, understanding and responding.
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Sorry for answering on this pretty late.  Let start by pointing out. I am no expert (far far ) from it. I'm not sure if I missed something. If I would have answered back on 8/12/2022. I probably would've asked. Why Bay 5 was circled besides the ones around the (Die Chips?) That's all I got from the pictures. Nothing was pointed out just circles. Pictures were clearer than this.   Edited by RobO411
08/23/2022 3:49 pm
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OH, OH, OH. what a moralist here. Sorry NY but you made me thing at the Louis Hypolite Lafontaine fibula "The moralist Wolf". Please read what the philosopher author wrote after the end: "The wolf change the hairs, but never his character."
Now to your remarks about experts: Here they are behind a Nickname. Do not worry about.
Second: It is a open forum of expressions.
Third: Your coin is far to be ADC-1c-1960D(SD)-35, Events A & B, Stages "B" & "C". Yes you has the Die marker on 6, maybe the RPM (was hundreds for the 1960-D), the U was hit during the circulation so is hard to say will be a marker.
Fourth: the clash on Mad is clear from under the E in United which give an perfect 90 deg with the digit 1. Your apparently traces start from under the D which according with the geometry of the coin design will be in angle by rapport of the digit 1.
Fifth: You fill it is that clash you mention? Well. Just send to MAD and you will see the answer.
Conclusion: I do my home work like suggested, and my opinion and conclusion is wrote above. Could be a very minor clash which for this year is no more attributed because is no market for.
Good luck on your coins studies and hope to brink us a rarity. I am fun of rarities.
PS: I hope you understand me, because according with your vocabulary you seem not to be an ordinary average culture person, so you can understand between the lines also. Thanks for your time.
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I would still like to know what kind of value this coin would bring if it were properly attributed.  You realize when you know how to think, it empowers you far beyond those who know only what to think.
-Neil deGrasse Tyson
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Edited by silviosi
08/23/2022 5:04 pm
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With the pictures provided, and all the drawn circles, I stand with my first response. "just a normal 60 usual die chips". I'm glad you researched it to a clash. As Coop posted, 60s were full of chips, so much they remade the dies. You never said what you were looking for, so I commented on your circles. As stated, you have the coin in hand, all we can do is comment on the pictures. That's what I commented on.
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