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Hello Everybody! It's a glorious day... I'm just going to post this and not comment unless asked. Take a good look! 1802 S-236 for the variety. Have fun!  
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Yikes a lot going on with this coin. I'm interested to see where we net out on this one. 
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No one? Really? If it helps, I'll add the variety is known heavily bulged behind the head, between the ribbon knot and the curl. Anyone? It's like the coin had amnesia, and walked into my store. It can't tell me what happened to it...
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I can't tell if that's a die clash with UN behind Liberty's bow or if it was just whacked with another coin. The reverse looks deliberately notched all the way around. I have no idea what distinguishes an S-236.
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If it were die clashing, there would be a Positive image of the clashed design (like hubbing the obverse die with the reverse die). If someone pounded a reverse on top of the obverse in some hammer or vice scheme, how would that get around the diebulge? If it were a true overstrike on a brockage error, then what else happened?
Edited by Oldgrouchyguy 08/20/2022 4:07 pm
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Oldgrouchyguy-So what is your opinion on this coin?
You realize when you know how to think, it empowers you far beyond those who know only what to think.
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i think the most likeley explanantion for the incuse bit is post mint damage. someone smashed the reverse of a different coin into the obverse of this one using a press or a vice or some such. probably done to emulate a brockage.
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I see a "vise" job, or something alike. This coin obviously got smashed at one point or another, and I think there was another coin on top of it.
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Pillar of the Community
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Here's this (the reverse of an 1816 Large Cent) 
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Pillar of the Community
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So, the presser used a different Type for the impression... if you follow the impression pattern, it seems to be over the lines, which are really weird. Pics tomorrow
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Quote: If it were die clashing, there would be a Positive image of the clashed design While I agree that what we're seeing is likely intentional, I disagree with this statement. When one die whacks another die and leaves it's design, it is effectively creating a coin/hub on the other die (a "positive" image). When that die (whose clashed areas are now effectively a "hub") then strikes a coin, those areas on the coin are essentially what the original die looks like - reversed, and incuse where elements on a coin are supposed to be raised, and vice-versa. I own several coins that demonstrate this, for example a Barber dime with the portrait outline visible on the reverse from a clash, where the portrait is clearly reversed and incuse into the field, and a Canadian Voyageur dollar with an inner ear clash on the reverse, which is a raised area on the die, then incuse on the clashed die, and subsequently raised on the coin. Again, I do think what we see there is deliberate, but a die clash could conceivably produce the same thing.
Edited by kbbpll 08/22/2022 3:43 pm
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