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2922 D Wilma Mankiller Improperly Annealed Quarter

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Hello all. I thought this one was nice. It looks like an annealing issue to me. What do you think? Any info or comments appreciated. Thanks for looking
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 Posted 08/23/2022  4:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silviosi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
RW please can you show the Rim side?
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Thanks Silviosi. I think I have to take more pictures. They're not coming out right
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Nice color - is that the actual color or is the lighting somehow altering the appearance?
I do see 'roller lines' on this quarter though running NW to SE on the obverse and corresponding marks on the reverse..
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 Posted 08/23/2022  5:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RW1010 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Dearborn and Jbuck. Here's the edge. They do have striation lines though.
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The rim show that it is annealing problem. It is the first one I see for those coins.
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Annealing is over my pay grade, but nice roller lines.
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I don't think pictures can capture the toning on these coins. They have different hues as the light hits them. The Crossing The Delaware is the only one circulated but still ms
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Thanks Silviosi and Cujohn. They stick out like a sore thumb when you see it in a bu roll
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Photos with really color is very hard to have. So in order to see if annealing problems is the rim. Here the explanation: The planchet fall in the collar and is strike. The dies (anvil and hammer) will press the material which expand and on the sides take the design of the collar. The moment when is eject from collar, the sides show very fresh material with no color then other like is very new. Hope help.
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looks good, nice find!
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Thanks everyone. I read on error-ref that it was potentially the grain of the strip being revealed by over annealing. Nice toning also
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Looks like a die clash on the reverse. I'm not sure what that is on the obverse running through the bust from the motto in a wavy pattern exits through the chin and runs in front of the profile. Maybe a clash from the Motto to the e in liberty? I can't tell yet. You can see it in the first two pictures
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Need to see the reeded edge to confirm, but looks like an improperly annealed planchet to me. Nice find!
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