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1859 Indian Head Cent PCGS Vs You

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How would you grade this one?


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I think the mark on the cheek will hold this to MS-64.
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I'll say MS-65. Nice example!
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Interesting how the first obverse photo shows well-struck feathers while the second shot shows them much more blunt at the tips. Surfaces look less original in that shot, also. Still the same coin, of course.
The cheek scratch should limit the grade but it still looks 64 minimum. Nice one.
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MS64+
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MS65. the light scratch on the cheek is not going to degrade the coin by a point. worst case MS64+
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I really like this one , MS65BN even with the staple scratch .
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Gorgeous....MS-65
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I'm with Grapecollects on this one, I think the weak has a touch of weak strike holding it back. Still a super nice looking coin devoid of usual spotting. Is that a tiny planchet flaw around the lower ribbon end on the reverse left side?
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I don't think the scratch on the cheek is enough to detail it, but that holds back the grade for me....MS63 maybe MS64. Strike is a little weak too. Still a nice looking coin!
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ms64 or UNC details cleaned.
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Struck from worn dies, look at those reverse denticles & rim.

TrueView color is good, actual photo color looks altered/questionable.

But I'm going to go with PCGS on this one.

MS64

Hairline scratches on cheek and under RI in AMERICA

nb. PCGS does not give CuNi Indians color designators (no BN/RB/RD)
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I liked this one for the grade! The close up pictures of it are from David Lawrence, not PCGS. I think the marks on the back restricted the grade, as did the hairline scratches on the obverse. This is the most expensive coin in my small cents collection, but still well under 1G! I'm proud!


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Looks choice for a 63. Nice pick up on your part.
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Well bought for a 63.
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Sure looks better.
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